[thalinedominata]

I need some input on these two subs. I'm going to be using them in the same room, the theatre room, for movies, music. and video games. Any information helps thank you.

 

[Bruce Fisher]

I recommend you explain your goal a bit more if you want some replies. The topic sounds like you are trying to decide between the two... but your post makes it sound like you have both already and will be using them together... not really sure what info you are asking for.

 

[thalinedominata]

I'm sorry, I don't have either one yet. I'm trying to decide which one I should. I guess I just want people's opinion on which sub sounds/performs better. Thank you!

 

[bobgpsr]

Both of those subs are high priced but small. The JL is likely to perform better IIRC. But most of us here are into larger subs that go deeper/louder but cost a lot less than those two you mention. Is your listening room fairly small? We would need to know the cubic footage of your room.

 

[thalinedominata]

25x21x18, 9,450 cubic feet.

so the Supercube Trinity and Fathom 113 are overpriced? What do you recommend?

 

[spyboy]

Overpriced compared to Internet Direct subwoofers. Many people are buying their subwoofers from ID companies including SVS, HSU, Epik, Ed, Ascend, and others.

These companies usually have offerings that can get the job done for less than the store brands you have mentioned.

The issue for you is likely to come down to how big a box can you live with. For example, the Ed A7-900 is $2,500 delivered, however, it is also quite large at 26 X 50 X 27 inches.

Using a huge ported box, 2 times 18 inch drivers, and a 1300 watt amp, the A7-900 should easily fill a room of your size. Most likely, the box is simply much bigger than you want in your room.

Still, it gives you glimpse into one of the companies people are buying from.

A much more reasonably sized high performance model would be the SVS PB-13 Ultra.

Check the top unit from Epik. http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/porteddynasty.html

While the Conquest has not been taken down from their web site, there is a good chance it will not reappear, at least any time soon.

 

[Bruce Fisher]

that's a pretty big room... I'd consider 2 or even 3 subs depending on what you are trying to accomplish.

 

[thalinedominata]

Does anyone have thoughts on the SVs PB-13 Ultra?

 

[spyboy]

Does anyone have thoughts on the SVs PB-13 Ultra?

One SVS PB-13 Ultra is enough for most medium to large size rooms. Dual PB-13 Ultras is a very good choice for a truly large room.

 

[warpdrive]

I'd start with one PB13 and see how that works. If you are still craving more, you can always buy a second. In your large room, you don't want to short change yourself, and should go for a large cabinet ported sub. The JL sub is amazing, but there is no replacement for displacement.

 

[thalinedominata]

what do you mean when you say there is no replacement for displacement? I'm not every knowledgeable in audio?

 

[warpdrive]

Basically size matters when it comes to subwoofers. A larger ported sub (SVS PB13) will more likely outperform a smaller sealed type subwoofer like a JL F113 when it comes to depth of bass. There are many reasons for this and it's due to the physics of reproducing bass. The SVS uses a ported (bass reflex) design which inherently produces deeper bass. The JL uses a sealed design (search for Acoustic Suspension loudspeaker) but needs more power and a very beefy driver to come close. Again, the JL is an amazing sub that uses superb engineering but it's like bringing the best knife to a sword fight.

 

[thalinedominata]

what about the supercube trinity?

 

[warpdrive]

Def Tech subs are not bad. They use a design called passive radiator design which allows some of the advantages of a ported design but with less cabinet size. My experience with the Def Tech is that they sound a bit less controlled (the bass notes sound looser rather than a tighter, more accurate sound), I don't think they are in the same sound quality league as the others based on my experience with the other Supercubes.

Because the Definitive uses multiple drivers aimed all around, I also find they seem to be very picky with where you place it as well

The other beef I have is that their specs have been shown to be too optimistic. The actual measured performance never lives up to the spec sheet.

If you can pick one up at a substantial discount (say 35-40% off), they would be decent bang for the buck still

 

[thalinedominata]

I don't want to be far fetched in asking this, maybe its too broad, but what's the best subwoofer available for under 3,000

 

[salvasol]

I don't want to be far fetched in asking this, maybe its too broad, but what's the best subwoofer available for under 3,000

For $3000 I get a pair of this PC13 Ultra or with $200 more a pair of this PB13 Ultra

If you're handy or have anybody that can help you, you can go the DIY route.....you can build a killer sub/subs :yes:

 

[warpdrive]

Agreed. I'd get a pair of PB13 Ultra if you can handle the two large boxes, if not then get the JL F113

 

[thalinedominata]

are the PC13 ultra's similar to the pb13 ultras??

 

[skool]

I would highly recommend the HSU ULS-15 DualDrive, which is much less than your $3k budget.

 

[spyboy]

are the PC13 ultra's similar to the pb13 ultras??

The PC versions are tall cylinders, in the case of the PC Ultra, 46 inches tall and 16 inches in diameter.

The size makes them very visible in a normal room, (as opposed to behind a screen).

Performance wise, the PB Ultra and PC Ultra are almost identical, with a tiny edge to the PB.