[Rogerio Neiva]

I was hoping that the new REW version (by the way john, congratulations) would support DEQ2496. It doesn't.

I believe that the problem with using FBQ2496 via Midi is because the Midi controls differ from thos of the DEQ2496 so it is not possible to automatically download the filters. The same happens with the DCX2496 ?

There is so much information in this site that, before start looking for it, I will ask. Is there any tutorial on how to do the analysis and manually set the filters on the DEQ2496 ?

Thank you for helping.

 

[JohnM]

Using the EQ Window is explained in the help, there is not a great deal to do - make the measurement, select the target shape and set the target level, choose the frequency range over which you want REW to generate filters, and click "Match Response to Target". REW will then generate a set of filters to use.

The DEQ looks to use the same filter BW settings as the FBQ, so selecting FBQ2496 as the equaliser may give you suitable settings to use. It would be best to check first though, the most reliable way would be to make a measurement with the DEQ2496 output fed to the soundcard input and a filter set up, then compare the shape of the filter to a filter in REW with the same settings.

 

[glennconti]

Hi I have a similar problem. I have made my measurements and selected FBQ2496 as my equalizer even though I have a DEQ2496. The EQ Filters needed are:
46.88 Hz -3.5 Gain .167 BW
62.52 Hz -7 Gain .25 BW
69.3 Hz 10 Gain .333 BW

However I can only set the Behringer DEQ2496 Parametric EQ Frequencies at the following levels:
20, 22.4, 25.2, 28.3, 31.7, 35.6, 44.8, 50.2, 56.4, 63.2, 71.0, or Higher

BW and Gain are not a problem. But how do I set the frequencies on the DEQ2496???

 

[glennconti]

No problem. I figured it out. Had to click a button on the DEQ2496 to get finer resolution. It's all good now.

 

[glennconti]

How does this look? This is with GEQ and PEQ on my DEQ2496. Is my sub well integrated? Any input is appreciated.

 

[glennconti]

This is the same thing but with 500ms time range

 

[JohnM]

Looks pretty good

 

[basilbasilbasil]

requested to DEQ 2496 in the supported list:

31-band Graphic Equalizer with 1\3 oct bandwidth (iso standart frequencies) + 10-band parametric Equalizer with bandwidth from 1\10 to 10 octaves (Tomorrow I'll write a list of frequencies - Unfortunately, they are fixed)
+ digital delay to correct phase with resolution 0.02 ms

 

[basilbasilbasil]

frequencies of parametric EQ of DEQ2496:
20, 22.4, 25.2, 28.3, 31.7, 35.6, 39.9, 44.8, 50.2, 56.4, 63.2, 71, 79.6, 89.3, 100, 112, 126, 141, 158, 178, 200, 224, 251, 282, 316, 355, 399, 447, 502, 563, 632, 709, 796, 893, 1002, 1124, 1261, 1415, 1588, 1782, 2000, 2244, 2517, 2825, 3169, 3556, 3990, 4477, 5023, 5636, 6324, 7096, 7962, 8933, 10023, 11246, 12619, 14158, 15886, 17825, 20000
bandwidths of parametric EQ of DEQ2496:1\10, 1\9, 1\8, 1\7, 1\6, 1\5, 1\4, 1\3, 1\2, 3\4, 1, 3\2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, shelving lowpass 6db, shelving lowpass 12db,shelving hipass 6db, shelving hipass 12db, hicut and locut but do not know how many poles

only a graphic equalizer controlled by midi
There is no documentation on the management by sysex

hope you add DEQ to your wonderful program )))

 

[glennconti]

The DEQ2496 PEQ has many more frequencies than you describe. You need to press the big round knob in to get greater frequency resolution.

 

[basilbasilbasil]

The DEQ2496 PEQ has many more frequencies than you describe. You need to press the big round knob in to get greater frequency resolution.

even more so! :yikes:
thank'u.

 

[Yerox]

Hi all, this is my first post, rather than starting a new thread I figured it might be neater to ask here as its pretty on topic I believe.

I am about to use REW to check out my room, I have bought (although not yet receieved) an ECM8000 mic, but am not sure whether to buy a Behringer FBQ2496 or a DEQ2496. Until I started reading this thread I had thought that it was the DEQ that was supported and not the FBQ, it seems I had it the wrong way round. I hear the DEQ is much better (not certain that's true, just what I read), but I'm slightly uncertain it's compatible. If I read this post correctly I think it's being said that you can just select the FBQ preset to upload the midi config file, but thought I'd better check I not misreading.

Thanks for any help.

Be well

 

[glennconti]

I used REW with an ECM8000 mic to set up the PEQ feature of my DEQ2496. REW only provided the the PEQ filters and then I manually programmed in the appropriate module of the DEQ2496. I did not try the midi interface. I suspect it would not work properly so manual intervention is necessary. Further I did not use REW to program the GEQ module. GEQ settings were created manually using a Rives Test CD 2 and playing the 31 test tones for my Radio Shack SPL Meter as a very first step. I used REW to verify the settings of my GEQ on the DEQ2496 as a second step. I only had to change settings based on REW for two frequencies. My understanding is the FBQ does not have a GEQ function so if you want to EQ the 1/3 octave frequencies you will need a DEQ2496 like me.

 

[Yerox]

Thanks for the input mate, I think I will go for the DEQ, but I fear my learning curve may be steeper than I'd hoped, since I'm not sure exactly what you are talking about with the PEQ vs GEQ

I'll start googling.

Appreciate your input b

 

[Yerox]

Just to be a bit clearer, I do know what they are, just not sure why id use both.

 

[glennconti]

The GEQ is a 1/3rd octave graphic equalizer that lets you boost or cut 31 evenly spaced frequencies between 20 Hz and 20,000 Hz. PEQ is a 1/60 octave parametric equalizer. The PEQ is appropriate for adjusting bass frequencies as there are 12 bass notes per octave so you need the finer resolution that a GEQ cannot provide to properly do the job. You need the PEQ to integrate a subwoofer to the rest of your speakers and into the room environment.

 

[Yerox]

Well I have a sub, so that'd be the way to go then. Thanks.

So would I be correct to say that I'd use the GEQ for all freq down to X bass level and then use the PEQ from there down for instance?!

Pardon the noob questions, long time music tinkerer, short term (yet wwaaasyyy overdue) room treater. I've been physically treating the room the past few weeks to a practical level, but wanted to be sure to gather enough knowledge of the eq side that I don't waste money on things I don't need.

I'll get the DEQ and rest will come clear over time I'm sure.

 

[glennconti]

You can overlap the GEQ and PEQ. There are only 10 slots in the PEQ, so depending on the number of filters REW calculates you may need to use some of the GEQ 1/3rd octave slots in the bass region. Be careful using the RTA with autoeq below 80 Hz. I think the FFT algorithm in the DEQ2496 is not accurate below 80 Hz. This is why I did not use autoeq at all and chose to use the Rives Test CD 2 test tones w/ Radio Shack SPL meter to set up my GEQ module.

 

[Yerox]

I wasn't planning on the using the auto settings at all, I thought id use the REW for that. Does that not cover the under 100hz region? Why did you use the SPL for that?

 

[afalout]

Reading this thread it seems that upload of PEQ/GEQ data to DEQ2496 directly via MIDI is still not possible?

Given the popularity of this model, and the fact that it's been a round for about 10 years and is still sold, is there any chance this may still happen?

Not being lazy, just afraid of my own error rate when entering so much data manually... :-/

Thanks, Andrej