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HLR6167WAX/XAA Digital board problems

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This set started having problems with tiling when cold, going green with patterns of lines, and other patterns of distorted images. It would clear up when run for a couple of hours. At the time, the digital board was on backorder, and in order to get the client up and running, I pulled the digital board from my personal set and installed it. This worked, assuring me that the digital board was the problem. I transferred the bad board to my set, and it had the same issues. After using it a while longer, it began having other symptoms, including locking up with no pix and turning off. Eventually, the set would start the lamp, never have any video nor any sound, then shut down after about a minute. It remained that way for a couple of months while I waited on a board.

Along the way, I have heard from a couple of sites, including Jason1976 here, that the problem may be connections on the DNIE chip on the digital board, near the DVI connector at the back side of the board. Apparently people were having success applying pressure to this chip. It is a BGA type (Ball Grid Array) that has pins underneath that contact points on the board. This is becoming common with high density ICs where external pin connections require larger size chips, tighter spacing, and geometries that are not efficient for the design of the chip. There are good reasons to use BGA, but they can be difficult to solder properly. Apparently, Samsung has had some issues with this chip.

One solution is to try to re-flow the slder. I don't suggest this for anyone without the right equipment. It is very easy to heat the wrong parts or overheat the chip, board, or related parts.

So I decided to experiment. I received the new board that had been on backorder, but figured I would play with the bad one as an experiment. The board is encased in a metal housing with holes. I looked in my shop for something that might fit between the chip and housing to put some pressure on the chip. I found a small bolt that happened to be just a litte too long to fit between the chip and the metal housing above it. I fitted it in, then pushed the edges of the housing down to where I could put the screws holding it all together back in. There was significant tension on the bolt, with the larger hex head end standing on the chip and the tip of the screw fitting against the metal housing (bolt standing on its head on top of the chip). It took a little pressure to get the screws back in, which was good, as it used the housing like a large spring pushing down on the bolt, which put a great deal of pressure on the chip. Simple solution if this is the problem.

The result is that the set fired up the first time and has run fine since. I don't know how long it will work, but I will run it and see. I have the other board, if anyone needs one. Keeping it will cost me an extra $50 on top of its cost, as it does have a core value and we normally send them back for credit. It will be worth it to have a new board on hand if my solution fails, or if another client needs one.

The part number for the digital board for this set is BP94-02084A. This is for the HLR6167WAX/XAA, L64C chassis type. You need to verify all of the suffixes on the service model and the chassis number to get the right board for Samsung sets, particularly these. There were many production changes and versions of these sets and some differences in the boards. Some even reportedly need to have the analog and digital boards changed together for some reason, but this one does not.
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The digital board downloads the tv guide at night so it always has power going into it making some heat. unless it's unplugged. we have seen this before you unplug them for a few days and they work again for some time but the issues come back. We found out that after ether a replacement digital board or a reflow then the issues go away.


Now for the person that had the reflow and theirs is still not working. The reflow may not of worked. It could be that It needs to be reballed, or the dnie chip could be bad or another issue with his digital board. It's hard to tell. You should let the guy on ebay know that the repair didn't work. Since he says if it's not repairable He will refund 50 of the 75.
The digital board downloads the tv guide at night so it always has power going into it making some heat. unless it's unplugged. we have seen this before you unplug them for a few days and they work again for some time but the issues come back. We found out that after ether a replacement digital board or a reflow then the issues go away.
It didn't even last a day. This morning is was back to freeze, go black, come back.

I'll rip the board out and send it off to JD.
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I am trying to confirm that the digital boards for the model numbers R4667, 5067,5667 and 6167 are the same. Is this correct. I am waiting to get the original re-flowed and am going to order a new digital board but want to be sure it is the correct part number BP94-02084A any help would be appreciated.
You need to verify that with Samsung. The part numbers are different for each set, and even each version of each set, according to service literature. You may find that the one board works for some or all of them, or even that they are supplying it as a replacement for them, but may have to make changes in the service mode when it is installed. Verify first, however, and do not rely solely on the information here.
I went on Samsung's site and it verified the part number before I ordered. It looks identical but I suppose it could be wrong.
If that is what they are supplying you have lttle choice but to try it. There were different light engines, ballast, and lamp combinations used even in the same model, so you may have to change setings in the service mode to get it to work.
Denbo33,
My VGA port does work.
I had Jdelectronics reflow my digital video board and it did NOT fix my t.v. issues.
Does this mean it IS my video board and NOT my DMD board, and the reflow did not work?
If so should I buy a video board from Samsung parts instead of trying to find a DMD board?
Jim it’s still a problem with your digital board, could be something besides the DNIE. I wonder how Jdelectronics verifies that the reflow worked? X-ray perhaps?
All signals from all ports (HDMI, Component, S video, tuner etc) gets processed by the DNIE chip, Except the VGA port which just passes through the DNIE :ponder:chip. Without that nasty DNIE processing.
So for folks who are too cheap (like me) or for other reasons (replaced TV) can still use the VGA port. As there are adapters and convertors from Component, DVI, and HDMI to VGA.
Now if I can just get mine to turn on.
Good evening, I replaced the digital board and the tv is now working. Problem is the screen is flipped. I am in the service menu using mute 1,8,2 power but can not find the spot to flip the screen. Does anyone know how to flip the screen?
Ben,

Should be a section for "horizontal" and "vertical" flip in one of the service menu areas. Try looking for that.
Good evening, I replaced the digital board and the tv is now working. Problem is the screen is flipped. I am in the service menu using mute 1,8,2 power but can not find the spot to flip the screen. Does anyone know how to flip the screen?[/QUOTE


My service manual states if you change the digtal board you should do DMD→Digital adjustment.
Under the service menu under "Service"

If that dosen't work then under "Service" change the Optic Select from or to SAMSUNG and ZEISS Selection.
Good evening, I replaced the digital board and the tv is now working. Problem is the screen is flipped. I am in the service menu using mute 1,8,2 power but can not find the spot to flip the screen. Does anyone know how to flip the screen?[/QUOTE


My service manual states if you change the digtal board you should do DMD→Digital adjustment.
Under the service menu under "Service"

If that dosen't work then under "Service" change the Optic Select from or to SAMSUNG and ZEISS Selection.
It's under one of the options. just remember to go back you have to hit return.
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