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Getting an IXL 18" soon and was wondering whats best I would like something that is standing rather then laying and taking floor space, but was wondering if a sono or a rectangle box would be best. Was thinking about the box because it'd be able to wedge right into the corner where a sono has that triangle of space.

Room in 13.2' long 12' wide by 8' high. 1267.2 square feet, it's gonna be loud, yes it's a bedroom :). Have another sub for the main room.

Power - Haven't decided yet, seems a EP 2500 would be too much power but headroom is great.
Was considering a bash 500 from CSS, a ED 1300, or possibly a pro amp something like a crown XTi 1000. But open to other suggestions.

I'd be purchasing a Reckhorn B-1 from Bob for a Hp/F.

Usage would be about 60% movies, 20% music and 20% gaming. Was thinking something like a 16 htz tune possibly :scratch: I know the box will be pretty big to fit the ports and enough area of them that there will be little air speed. Id like to get some proper ports like the psps rather then slot. Bit if slow would be best, so be it, or theres always the sono tube with wooden port flanges.

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12 cu.ft tuned to 16 hz works well, I have two IXL-18's in that setup. A box with external dimensions of 22" x 22" x 55" would fit in the corner nicely. If you want to down fire the sub then add 4 or 5 inches for legs and the thickness of a base plate. The sub will handle 850 watts with a HPF at 14 hz. The cheapest way to tune would be a 8 inch sonotube 34.75" long.
 

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Would it be alright to make it side( front) firing? in the lower end of the box and port into the air through the top, or would it be best down firing? My current subs I have from a DIY are down firing atm, did it that was so no little fingers could touch them, but not worried about that now. :paddle:



Edit I also looked through all the IXL DIY stuff from members, some nice jobs in there, I liked yours and Vitods.

Also what about bracing, and how many? Ive been playing with the ports and seems 2 4" ports would work at 18.7" long each, Can you confirm with yours?
I dont have a router or know anyone with one, so id have to purchase it and as I don't "plan" on building much after this sub, 2 PSP ports would be cheaper then the router and round over bits.
 

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As for WinISD, if you're using Vista there are known issues with the program.
Sorry for the thread-jack, but... What issues? The only issue I have (Windows 7) is WinISD won't close (have to kill the process in Task Manager). Are there other issues that I've been missing?
 

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Im using XP, but I was getting errors when I had auto calculate one and then after I cleared it all, then put them all in again when it was off, I got errors like "Floating point division by zero" then "Access violation at address 004d404e in module 'winISD.exe' Read of address 00000008" ><
 

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Tried that too, all I get is the invalid floating point error anytime I click something, makes this frustrating :/

I tried it about a month ago when I was a troll here and got the same thing so I was using the beta program and it worked for me fine, but I've seen people say pro was a lot better on these forums.

But I appreciate the help!
 

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Tried that too, all I get is the invalid floating point error anytime I click something, makes this frustrating :/
93ext- I got the same error when playing with the graph arranges. I believe I set low range of the frequency range setting to 0hz when the error started. Will check tonight when I get home to verify. Changed it to 5hz and the error was gone.

Welcome to the IXL family.:T

Good luck with the build!

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Confirmed. If the lower limit level of the frequency range is set to 0hz the error occurs.

Just in case anyone is not sure how to change the start and end plots of the graph:

Open WinISD and right click on the graph. Choose "Options" to get to the graph settings.



Here is the error message that occurs when the lower limit of the frequency range is set to 0hz. The error will occur anytime you change or click on anything in WinISD.


Is this the error you are getting?
 

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yup thanks :D

Edit: scratch that, still get the error :( Mine was set 10-500

uninstalled all WinISD and re installed them after a reboot, still have the error. I'm doomed to not be able to use pro version.
It happens when I click the graph, also if I change a value for anything including box size, ambient temperatures, power to the sub, doesn't happen with all drivers an ID 8 loaded and works fine, seems whatever custom files I have don't, but I have them in the folder they should be as per Mike's link.

Think I found the problem I wasnt selecting EBS for the box, but should it be a -3db or a -6 db EBS?
 

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Anyone have a tutorial for using the sonosub calc? Do I have to put in my own measurements for the caps? It isn't auto completing them, is there a way to?

It'd be easier making a sono as currently I lack a lot of tools Id need to make a nice box, and really don't want to pay someone else to do the work. Specially since I have the time to build something.

But I don't have a table saw, or a router (this would be needed for the sono still so I may buy one) although I could use screws to build a box Id rather brad nail it but no compressor and I also don't have a ton of bar or pipe clamps.

But Im sure I could manage circles and some gluing.

Thanks again. :dumbcrazy:


24" diameter tube is 5'6 and 15/16"s which isn't too bad I guess
 

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The default end cap thickness is 2.25 inches. Most people use 1.5 inches which is double 3/4 MDF. Change the end cap thickness to 1.5 inches before you enter any other info into the program.

If you build a sonotube, there is a release film on the inside of the tube that glue won't stick to. You'll have to peel it off before attempting to glue the end caps to the tube.
 

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The default end cap thickness is 2.25 inches. Most people use 1.5 inches which is double 3/4 MDF. Change the end cap thickness to 1.5 inches before you enter any other info into the program.
Current version V2.02 has changed default to 1.5 inches. More drivers added. Print screen added.
Details in new changelog added to sonosub page
 

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If you are having problems running winisd in Vista, try the compatibility mode settings. Run it in XP mode.
 

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I still get different numbers then the set up you made Mike I must be doing something wrong somewhere as i trust you to do this more then myself haha.


Also I have 2 6" aeros i can get, what length would I need for those (Want to use both not just one to keep velocity low.)
 

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Does WinISD auto calc that, Say if I put in 12 cubes and 16 htz, would it give me dimensions for a 13.5 cube or would it be the 12 cube?
 
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