I've heard the JBL's and was impressed for the price. But for the same price as a pair of floorstanding JBL's I built some TMWW with the Dayton RS driver's that sound fabulous. But I am DIY bias.
Not to put Sonus Faber down, but I saw a recent review of some of their most expensive speakers and they did not measure so great and had audible port noise. But I'll never afford a pair of those so.....I have to put in my agreement with the statement about the value of JBL speakers. I've auditioned dozens of speakers and that is the one truth I've found. The best bang-for-buck speakers come from JBL. It's really amazing that they get so little press on the (ahem) 'other' forums. I, too, have found that I'd need to go to ~5 grand/pair to sense an 'upgrade' from my S312's. (I'm using antique J350A's and Infinity Refs for surrounds, and a JBL E35 center.)
My hearing is plenty shot, too, from one too many concerts, R&R jams, and ear infections....maybe I just can't tell the difference between a 'good' speaker and a 'bad' one. Or not. LOL. :surrender:
(Still...these lovely S312's are goners the second I can afford some Sonus Faber Grand Pianos or Aerial 7B's. )
Have you heard them, Scott? If so, what was your listening experience?Not to put Sonus Faber down, but I saw a recent review of some of their most expensive speakers and they did not measure so great and had audible port noise. But I'll never afford a pair of those so.....
Have you heard them, Scott? If so, what was your listening experience?
I consider reviews, unless involving A/B/X or double blind testing methods to be reasonably useless. Perhaps you could put up a link to the review you mentioned. Speakers are subjective...one does not hear 'measurements'...and reviews generally involve a huge variety of front-end equipment, depending upon the reviewer...also rendering the results/opinions below some level of 'truth' or 'proof'.
Here are 38 reviews of the Grand Pianos.
They all represent a different opinion, whether from audiophile or average Joe (sorry AverageJoe). Some say too much bass. Some say too much treble. Some say too much midrange. Most say "JUST RIGHT". Reviews, for the most part are merely opinions.
No offense taken, Scott. I was clarifying for other readers that reviews are like opinions....which are like navels....everyone's got 'em, and they're all different. It so happens that my opinion includes a huge amount of affection for the sound of SF speakers. To each his own, and I honor that. One should probably refrain from too negative a statement without having heard the item, however. As I pointed out, there are tons of really positive reviews too. I'd recommend that, if possible, others should give this wonderful brand of Italian art a listen.No I haven't heard them and I agree that reviews can be useless. Most reviewers praise just about everything they review so they can continue to review more.
I was speaking from memory... I remeber the review being good but some comments on the port noise, internal construction and a not so great FR. I'm sure they are ten times better than anything I'll ever own. I hope I didn't offend, I was just throwing something out there.
PS, I found the link.
Sorry, Sonnie. I guess it's a little like discussing hearing aids in the thread, eh? :heehee:We've gotten totally off topic here... you guys might wanna discuss this via PM or email... or maybe start a new thread... :huh:
No kidding, we're in the process of looking for a home to buy and getting out of this townhouse.Great to hear you got a good deal on great sounding speakers. :bigsmile:
I'm completely in audio nervana with my LC1, L830 main/surround set up...can't wait to move into a house so I can add a sub and crank them up.