Jl audio 13W3V3-4 40 liter closed box: The best of one world

cavchameleon said:

Morca,

That's actually an extremely good job for your first build. The sound is more important and if your happy with that...

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Thanks.!

It is not my first sub,i knew a guy how made my sub boxes,so before i did half the work.
Butt this is the first i had to finish of myself.
And indeed the sound is great,so i am a very happy man

morca said:

Thanks.!

It is not my first sub,i knew a guy how made my sub boxes,so before i did half the work.
Butt this is the first i had to finish of myself.
And indeed the sound is great,so i am a very happy man

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Awesome. The last sub I built (home sub that is) was in the late 90's. I've made car subs (using JL Audio drivers) - easy to finish as they are carpeted . I haven't attempted to make a home sub recently as I've always found deals with pre-made ones.

cavchameleon said:

Awesome. The last sub I built (home sub that is) was in the late 90's. I've made car subs (using JL Audio drivers) - easy to finish as they are carpeted . I haven't attempted to make a home sub recently as I've always found deals with pre-made ones.

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Cool,my sub history also go,s back 20 years to the carsub,s from JL.
Butt one day at a homeaudioshow i heard a Velodyne DD18,i thougt my carsub can do that just as well.

So now i have 2 closed 13W3,s in the living, learned how to work whit REW,
DIY pay,s of if you do it right,thanks to JL ofcourse for building BIG sub,s that play very good in small boxes.

I agree with the JL drivers, they work nice in small enclosures. One of our cars now us using the JL 12W3's. In a trunk of an 09 Accord. The rest of the speakers are Infinity Kappas, love their sound.

That Drivers whit the Infinity Kappas compo make,s a great set i believe it sound,s great .

The real question in my head is are jl subs worth it for the money or can you get better performance from some of the other home audio geared subs. There is a fine line with jl being a name and how they perform. Don't get me wrong I think just about every jl product is dynamite but it also comes at a price.

Jstslamd said:

The real question in my head is are jl subs worth it for the money or can you get better performance from some of the other home audio geared subs. There is a fine line with jl being a name and how they perform. Don't get me wrong I think just about every jl product is dynamite but it also comes at a price.

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I think it depends. I got a great deal on my JL drivers for the car. But I agree with Home products. Yes, DIY can get you more for your money, but if you can score a great deal on home subs, then it may be a moot point. All the subs in our house I got on clearance sales, so I don't think I could have built it for the same price and look good at the same time.

I'm not so much talking about store bought subs already finished but drivers that are geared more for home audio. Some car audio subs work out well in doors some dont. But bang for the buck. Would you say a jl 13" w3 is a more capable driver than a new 15" ultimax or the new si 15 ?

Mind you the jl is roughly 50 bucks more than both of those drivers.

Jstslamd said:

I'm not so much talking about store bought subs already finished but drivers that are geared more for home audio. Some car audio subs work out well in doors some dont. But bang for the buck. Would you say a jl 13" w3 is a more capable driver than a new 15" ultimax or the new si 15 ?

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Got it! Drivers made for cars are made for compresing much smaller areas. I've never really used a car driver for a home sub, so can't really say. When I've made home subs in the past, I chose drivers made for larger boxes. Maybe someone with the knowledge or experience with this can chime in. As for myself, I've always used drivers designed for cars in cars and those for in-home for home...

JL drivers are just as good for HT use ,I got 2 closed in a 40 liter box each in the living.
And a bandpass whit a 40 liter closed box for HT use.

The driver are indeed a little more expensive,but the can handle a lot.
JL drivers are extremly good i think.

For a litle for what it really cost,s i build my own F113 or Gotham.:hsd:

I've changed my mind, I'm going to go with an acoustic elegance 12" single sub design.

Looks good to,spec,s are ok,what are you paying for a unit.
Wich 12 inch do you mean ?

AE TD12X for $285. Sure its $85 more expensive but it has amazing performance and reliability behind it. The following design is what I want. Push Pull isobaric.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/for...8747-acoustic-elegance-dual-12-diy-sub-3.html

I can't decide whether or not to build 2x of the subwoofers you built with the driver you used or go with 2 separate JL Audio 13W6V2D4 subwoofer enclosures, a single isobaric with the JL Audio 13W6V2D4, 2 drivers(to save space), or 2x Acoustic Elegance td12x isobaric from the link I listed above.

I decided to go with Class A/B amps rather than the Class D. So I've been looking at a Samson SX-1200 as the amp to use for this build then running a Mini DSP. I was thinking of modifying the amps with some higher grade Nichicon KG capacitors. I read in another forum that the stock capacitors are low quality so I should upgrade them.

I saw a guy on audiogon selling 2x Elemental Designs A5s-325 which has the 13" driver from them. I really wanted these subs but I'm concerned if the woofer goes bad I'm kind of screwed. I don't think the JL Audio's 13" would match up if I tried to swap those in.

If your in the USA there are better options than to use an expensive AE driver for a true HT sub. If you are using this in a music sub then they are great.

I want 60% music 40% movies.

Location?

That type of wants would be better for sealed or ported 22hz. But I dont want to derail this thread into anthers.

I would say,build a bandpass/vented and a closed system whit 2 unit,s from JL.
Playing misic only whit the closed,HT use whit the bandpass and the closed togheter,souns great.
You get the best of both world,s.

JL driver a expensive indeed,butt i think they are word any euro i payed.

Hey all. My search for good quality subs in my country, as also the minidsp i buy (amasing little fellow) lead me here and read your posts regarding the JL subwoofers. So today i am a happy owner of my first 13W3V3-4 and after the new years eve i will make the box, sealed one. I wanted to make 2 sealed in the same time but the next will be on a later time.

I have a couple of questions morca. You have the inuke 3000dsp as also the hypex d4. Atm i will use the free channel on my rotel for the sub. For the future i am between ep2000, inuke3000 or a couple of hypex for the set up. You see differences from inuke to the hypex ones? Your responce will help me a lot :wave: