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Good sales people, bad salespeople, ...who cares?! This isn't about salespeople. It's about whether or not the OP should go with a pj or not. It's quite clear that the overwhelming consensus is that the answer is an absolute and unequivocal YES

Additionally, after you get the pj, DO NOT BOTHER WITH A SCREEN! Most of the time - (notice I said most, not all) they are just an added expense that actually detracts from the whole HT feeling anyway. I am speaking from personal experience on this. In a room your size - the best, most kick butt, most impactful you can get, is to use THE ENTIRE WALL ITSELF as the screen. Now of course you don't just turn on the pj and that's it - you do need to do some minor preparation to the wall, but it's ridiculously simple and inexpensive.

Since this is a basement, and it's already in use anyway, I have to believe the walls are finished. So, just make sure whatever wall you intend throw the image at, is both flat and true. By that I mean no cracks or uneveness. If there are any 'issues', a 5 dollar can of putty and some sandpaper will solve that problem in less than an hour. Once the wall is nice and flat, run out and get yourself a gallon of behr silver screen paint, a cheepo roller, and a plastic throw away paint pan. Shouldn't run you more than 40 bucks total. Throw on 2 coats of paint - and that's it! Your done. It really is that simple. It really is that easy. And, it absolutely is that good!

Believe me when I tell you, there is NOTHING cooler than a floor to ceiling, corner to corner image when your sitting in a home theater.

Here's my proof - this is a LOUSY pic - but it makes the point. conventional wisdom would be to use a screen - THE RED LINE


Now you tell me, which do YOU think is better? Screen, or no screen?
Don't forget, you can still always put a screen on the wall afterwards if you want - but doesn't it just seem smarter to see if you really even need a screen 1st?
In my theater, I had dozens of screen vendors send me sample swatches of all kinds of materials, and when I held them up to my 40 dollar painted wall - not a single 1 of them made the slightest improvement over what I already had.

I forgot to add - THE RED OUTLINE is 13 feet wide, my screen(wall) is 15 feet. That's right, no screen grants me mini IMAX status!
 

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I thought that the reason we were here was to seek out or to answer the people who are seeking information about their current home theater setups or for one that they want to build, not to discus issues with sales.
However since you brought it up, I probably agree with most of the info in your post as I have no direct info about profit margins and commissions. Please do not take what I have to say as a personal attack because it isn't, however over my life time it has been my experience that around 90% of all sales people I have dealt with have been misleading and some have been down right untruthful. Where do you think that the terms "The great American huckster" or "Snake oil salesman" came from? When I need accurate unbiased information about a product I rely on other peoples experiences and knowledge which is the very reason I use this forum. You obviously are one of the 10% of honest sales people who unfortunately get drowned out by the other 90% who are not.
 

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Good sales people, bad salespeople, ...who cares?! This isn't about salespeople. It's about whether or not the OP should go with a pj or not. It's quite clear that the overwhelming consensus is that the answer is an absolute and unequivocal YES

Additionally, after you get the pj, DO NOT BOTHER WITH A SCREEN! Most of the time - (notice I said most, not all) they are just an added expense that actually detracts from the whole HT feeling anyway. I am speaking from personal experience on this. In a room your size - the best, most kick butt, most impactful you can get, is to use THE ENTIRE WALL ITSELF as the screen. Now of course you don't just turn on the pj and that's it - you do need to do some minor preparation to the wall, but it's ridiculously simple and inexpensive.

Since this is a basement, and it's already in use anyway, I have to believe the walls are finished. So, just make sure whatever wall you intend throw the image at, is both flat and true. By that I mean no cracks or uneveness. If there are any 'issues', a 5 dollar can of putty and some sandpaper will solve that problem in less than an hour. Once the wall is nice and flat, run out and get yourself a gallon of behr silver screen paint, a cheepo roller, and a plastic throw away paint pan. Shouldn't run you more than 40 bucks total. Throw on 2 coats of paint - and that's it! Your done. It really is that simple. It really is that easy. And, it absolutely is that good!

Believe me when I tell you, there is NOTHING cooler than a floor to ceiling, corner to corner image when your sitting in a home theater.

Here's my proof - this is a LOUSY pic - but it makes the point. conventional wisdom would be to use a screen - THE RED LINE


Now you tell me, which do YOU think is better? Screen, or no screen?
Don't forget, you can still always put a screen on the wall afterwards if you want - but doesn't it just seem smarter to see if you really even need a screen 1st?
In my theater, I had dozens of screen vendors send me sample swatches of all kinds of materials, and when I held them up to my 40 dollar painted wall - not a single 1 of them made the slightest improvement over what I already had.

I forgot to add - THE RED OUTLINE is 13 feet wide, my screen(wall) is 15 feet. That's right, no screen grants me mini IMAX status!
The purpose of a screen is to get the best image popssible. Certainly if you are happy with projecting onto a wall, that is fine, but you can have a screen the same size as your wall if you want it.
 

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I thought that the reason we were here was to seek out or to answer the people who are seeking information about their current home theater setups or for one that they want to build, not to discus issues with sales.
However since you brought it up, I probably agree with most of the info in your post as I have no direct info about profit margins and commissions. Please do not take what I have to say as a personal attack because it isn't, however over my life time it has been my experience that around 90% of all sales people I have dealt with have been misleading and some have been down right untruthful. Where do you think that the terms "The great American huckster" or "Snake oil salesman" came from? When I need accurate unbiased information about a product I rely on other peoples experiences and knowledge which is the very reason I use this forum. You obviously are one of the 10% of honest sales people who unfortunately get drowned out by the other 90% who are not.
We are here to discuss whatever is meaningful to home theater enthusiasts in the context of the question posed by the OP. Certainly sales is a part of the matter, but your post does nothing to answer his question, which is more about whether he should get a projector.

Having done hundreds or projector installations, I would not jump to the conclusion that a 7ft ceiling is a seriously limiting factor. I have seen many installations in rooms with low ceilings and other variables are much more relevevant.
 

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The OP never came back with room dimensions, 80" screen might be (or not) be the most appropriate size for the room.
 

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I have 78" ceilings in my basement. I'm using a 106" screen and an Epson 6010 projector. No issues at all unless I stand up in front of the lens. The OP shouldn't worry about a projector so long as you can mount it free from obstruction and it has decent ventilation.
 

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Just ordered my Sony HW40ES and Chief mount today. Projector People got my business as I've heard great things about them. I ordered online and an hour later a phone call confirming everything and the lady answered my questions about shipping thoroughly. I was IMPRESSED! Maybe the best experience I've had so far. Simply, straight forward and they confirmed my gut feeling.

OK, so screen. Seymour retractable AT screen has been on order a month and a half. Still not sure if they've even started to build it yet and I have a feeling I'm getting pushed back due to the holidays, CES, yada yada. This screen better be worth it and be done soon! Hate trying to throw my money at companies that just don't seem too excited to take it.

So if the OP sees this, I may have a good answer for you soon. 7 foot ceilings 105" wide screen. It will be viewable from about 6 inches down from the ceiling to a couple feet off the floor. I've put a lot of through into it, measuring, reading, checking out dozens of Youtube vids of people setups. I'm pretty sure I will be in heaven when it's done. Pics to come as soon as I get the screen and it's all set up. Hopefully in another week or so.
 

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Just ordered my Sony HW40ES and Chief mount today. Projector People got my business as I've heard great things about them. I ordered online and an hour later a phone call confirming everything and the lady answered my questions about shipping thoroughly. I was IMPRESSED! Maybe the best experience I've had so far. Simply, straight forward and they confirmed my gut feeling. OK, so screen. Seymour retractable AT screen has been on order a month and a half. Still not sure if they've even started to build it yet and I have a feeling I'm getting pushed back due to the holidays, CES, yada yada. This screen better be worth it and be done soon! Hate trying to throw my money at companies that just don't seem too excited to take it. So if the OP sees this, I may have a good answer for you soon. 7 foot ceilings 105" wide screen. It will be viewable from about 6 inches down from the ceiling to a couple feet off the floor. I've put a lot of through into it, measuring, reading, checking out dozens of Youtube vids of people setups. I'm pretty sure I will be in heaven when it's done. Pics to come as soon as I get the screen and it's all set up. Hopefully in another week or so.
You will be blown away! There's such a tremendous difference between looking at a box and a dedicated home theater screen.

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Ordered my HW40ES from Projector People Monday. Hour later I get a call from them confirming everything. They shipped my projector and mount out right away. FedEx delivered it by 10AM this morning. I didn't even expect it as we had a snow storm yesterday and I figure they would be behind. This may have been the best experience I've had ordering such a large price item. Glad I went through them.

I set up the mount on the projector and will probably install it in the ceiling Friday night. Not All I'm waiting for is my screen to get done and I'll be one happy camper. I'll post a pic of the projector mounted in my room when it's up. Time to start getting a list of movies together I want to watch.

Also, after some poking and prodding, Emotiva called me back yesterday and said they'd try to get me some rack ears for the equipment I have. I was a bit miffed that they weren't available after building an equipment rack into the wall. But after calls two days in a row from them, we got it sorted out and they really went out of their way to make me happy. Big high five for Emo. They should be here next week. Time to order a few custom panels to mount the PS4 and cable box and that project will be complete too. It's a very exciting time as I've been dreaming of putting all of this together for several years.
 

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Congrats and welcome to the Sony projector family. I have the 55es and I love it.

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Best Buy tried to sell me on a 55 as they are discontinued (according to them). Probably had a bulb that was in need of replacement, and I don't think they had the new spare that they come with. The would have sold it for $2000. Then the 40 went on sale again. I figured, after so much praise for the 40, I'd stick with that. My room will be totally light controlled and with having to pay tax on top of the $2000 and probably having to pay for a spare bulb, maybe real soon, I just felt a brand new 40 would suit me well. Not sure if the iris makes any noise or you can artifacts from it, but I just don't think I'll need the small improvement in black levels. After all, 4K projectors will be the norm soon and I'll be ready for one of those in a few years.
 

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This is my second 55s. I had a bad accident and had to buy another projector. I had to choose between the 60, 55 and 40. I was able to get a really good deal on a new 55es. Plus i already had the original spare lamp and now I have two. I figured I loved the picture and with the lamps I would be good until 4k is more reasonable.
 

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Now I'm trying to decide whether I should get a Oppo 103D. It's got some features I want and I've read that the Darbee processing in conjunction with that of the Sony, when used sparingly, makes a noticeable difference in picture quality. My only concern is when their new players come out (whenever that may be) I'll be back to having an outdated player.
 

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Now I'm trying to decide whether I should get a Oppo 103D. It's got some features I want and I've read that the Darbee processing in conjunction with that of the Sony, when used sparingly, makes a noticeable difference in picture quality. My only concern is when their new players come out (whenever that may be) I'll be back to having an outdated player.
I have the Oppo 103 and a separate Darby and it makes a nice difference. You could go ahead and make the move because it will be a while before the 4k model comes out and you don't have a 4k projector.
 

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Finally got the HW40ES projector and Chief RPAU mounted. Took a shot of the mount a little closer to show people a reference with the pop can at how far down it mounts when flush mounting. Exactly a pop can width :)

This is my 7 ft ceiling height set up. Exciting news as my Seymour 120" retractable AT screen may be ready to pick up later this week. For reference, it will span to the outside edges of my speakers. Kind of a narrow room but it's cozy and you will really get that "right there" feeling. Viewing distance is 13 ft and throw distance is 16 feet.

New rack mounts for some equipment will be in tomorrow so I should have my equipment rack near complete as soon as I get a couple more custom Middle Atlantic shelves made for the PS4 and cable box.
 

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Finally got the HW40ES projector and Chief RPAU mounted. Took a shot of the mount a little closer to show people a reference with the pop can at how far down it mounts when flush mounting. Exactly a pop can width :)

This is my 7 ft ceiling height set up. Exciting news as my Seymour 120" retractable AT screen may be ready to pick up later this week. For reference, it will span to the outside edges of my speakers. Kind of a narrow room but it's cozy and you will really get that "right there" feeling. Viewing distance is 13 ft and throw distance is 16 feet.

New rack mounts for some equipment will be in tomorrow so I should have my equipment rack near complete as soon as I get a couple more custom Middle Atlantic shelves made for the PS4 and cable box.
I am sure you are going to be loving the new screen. I sit 12' from our 195" Seymour AV AT screen, and it is great!
 

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wait, 195"? That is insanely large. Don't you have to physically move your head to view the whole thing? lol

Which screen material did you get? I got the UF as I believe the 40ES will be bright enough to light it up and I want the best black levels. Seems like everyone gets the XD
 

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wait, 195"? That is insanely large. Don't you have to physically move your head to view the whole thing? lol

Which screen material did you get? I got the UF as I believe the 40ES will be bright enough to light it up and I want the best black levels. Seems like everyone gets the XD
Nope...it is fully within your field of view. 15' wide. I am using the XD material.

This was taken with my smartphone while the SB was on...not paused.
 

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The only problem with a projector involves something called offset (especially if there is no lens shift). When I ceiling mounted a projector (ceiling height 7'6") my old Infocus model had an offset where the projector lens had to be at least 12" above the top of the screen but I didn't have he room with my 106" screen. The result was the projected image wasn't a perfect rectangle and had to be adjusted. My new Sony 40ES projector has lens shift and so the offset issue didn't exist. Other than this offset issue with projectors that don't have lens shift you shouldn't have a real issue especially if you ceiling mount.

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