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I dont think we will ever see the likes of the SVS B4 again and IIRC they did not sell many of them anyway, most of the people to consider a sub that size would rather head the IB route or DIY sub builds atleast, the way SVS has gone now with there designs IMO is the best to date and best sounding also, I never liked the old PC/PB+ range, lots of bass but not controlled enough for my liking, but with the new Ultra they have hit the nail on the head and got it just right, when you consider the pricing of these subs there is not really that much that can touch them tbh...and I really like the idea of SB16Ultra, I have always prefered sealed designs which have always worked best in my rooms, the PB13Ultra being the only exception for a ported sub.

With the EQ1 SVS is one of the best positioned sub makers in the market today offering solutions for nearly all needs and budgets, I always thought Velodyne had it nailed but they do not seem to be keeping up with the competition anymore, although the DD range are still good they are now an old design and of seriously needing an update...

I was thinking I wonder if they could fit a single 10 inch woofer into something reasonably sized?

They could use a more expensive tweeter but I only seeming them do this if it sounds better.

A true full range floor stander capable down to the mid to low 30's would be pretty interesting.


As you said everyone is trying to make top quality subs. And SVS has fallen off the very high end a bit.

The SVS PB Ultra 13 is one of the best subs out there. And its rather reasonable. I'm sure SVS could step it up.

It just seems like a shame to leave all the radical subs in the past. I keep seeing stuff about the conquest and A7-900 and I think why isn't SVS kicking right along with them.

I think ever sense Tom V left and the economy turned to . SVS has become a lot more cautious with its designs. Not this is a bad thing but the truly outrageous desgins don't seem to be in anymore.

I understand the price and weight are an issue but if people will by conquests I'm sure SVS could do something competitive as well.

I don't think we will ever See a Powered B4/plus or a PB Ultra 13/ 2 (both where in the designs faze) But it would nice to at least see a large ported 16 ultra sub and maybe an SS tube version.

SVS could again be competitive on the high and every where else.

Besides the LTS speakers need a over the top sub to go with them.

I just hope SVS hasn't totally lost its rebellious lets build crazy big high performance stuff because we can attitude.

We don't want SVS to become mainstream and boring... shudders. I seem to be getting that vibe as of late. I hope I'm just being paranoid.

We don't want SVS becoming the next big box audio brand.

 

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As to Velodyne Yes they aren't completive anymore. The Fathom can undercut them for smalled and sealed for a some what reasonable price.

I've heard a DD12 and I wasn't impressed. But I'm also not one to need something super small and expect those trade offs.

The servo idea never impressed me I admit it. It seemed like the wrong way to go about overcoming distortion.

I had 2 DD12's in my system previously but my big M&K easily out performs the Velodynes, and agree with your comments ref to the servo designs, it limits them and dont fully agree with the implementation of servos.

JLAudio seem to be doing good things with smaller boxes and the Fathoms are a good example, nearly bought an F113 and still may do that one day, Barry Ober has great knowledge and have had lengthy conversations with him ref to the Fathoms and all things AV, great guy

I look forward to hearing the 16Ultra once it arrives !

 

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The only thing that bothers me about the LTS is the time frame. These were first announced in November of 2006. I consider them vapor ware until I see them for sale.

I remember similar speculation with the SVS-EQ1 and people kept on saying it would never appear and it did :whistling:

 

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Only time will tell, we shall see, they have always been excellent with there products based on VFM and the R&D has certainly given us some excellent subs, easily the best to date...I am interested in the 16 Ultra if that does materialise....