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Thanks Phil.

Terry, I have been pondering your post. It made me think. I agree that (specifically in Christian circles) the credit always seems directed away from the specific care givers. But I would like to take this oportunity to re-enforce that Marian and I both regularly thank and show appreciation for/to the doctors/nurses. I am also an avid science fanatic, and to that end, I constantly marvel at the wonders in science and peoples understanding/advances in medicine (it gets very complicated and mind boggling). Particulary cell mitosis and the associated chemical/genetic changes required for growth.

Within the basic structure of faith, it is through God that peoples inteligence and wisdom are gained, both professional secular and teacher/pastor. So from this understanding we automatically give credit to God for the work of people.

To summerise: Whilst we acknowledge that without doctors/researches we would not have chemo drugs, we believe that without God we would not have doctors/researches.

Please be assured that members of our church pray specifically for health care givers as a dedicated part of the Sunday morning service.

Please feel free to PM or post if What I said doesn't make sense. (I am dyslexic with mild Autistic traits, this of course makes comunication a little hard).
 

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hi drf

You have given me your wifes name, Marion, was hoping you might have slipped your first name in so I could address you by that, much more intimate, especially given the thread we are in.

Having mentioned Marions name, I hope very much she is doing well, or at least as well as we can reasonably expect.

Thanks for your reply, although to be honest I didn't expect one, as I only wanted people, at least for a small time,to also acknowledge the efforts in often trying circumstances of the people on the cutting edge. In no way did I want to distract from the thread which is of course your wife and her sad situation.

Perhaps it is needless for me to say, but obviously I don't fully agree with your 'worldview' so to speak, but I AM very interested in your wifes medical progress and so certainly in a metaphorical sense I am 'praying for' Marion!!

I don't want to start some sort of theological thread, and even if I did this is in no way an appropriate place to do it, but thankyou for your reasoned reply.

It may be comforting that arranged behind your wife and yourself are ALL the available forces- both christian and non-christian- all hoping for her well-being and recovery!!

Both of you take care, and keep us up-to-date.
 

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You have not distracted from this thread, I earnestly like it when people point out such opinions as I find it helps to take a more reasoned approach to what is divine, what is human and what is niether. Which ever side of the faith divide we sit I still respect your opinions and that is the main reason I replied (A kind of explanation for my attitude). I appreciate greatly your concerns and metaphorical prayers and will keep everyone updated as it happens. BTW my name is Matt.

An update, Marian had an apointment with her specialist on Tursday resulting from her infection and subsequent stay in hospital. As part of that appointment her specialist reviewed her latest CT scans and found very little evidence of the cancer that was throughout most of her body. Now he has booked her in 6 weeks early for her PET scan. basically this could shorten her need for chemo treatement from 12 rounds to only 6. Sofar this is really good news as it shows she is healing at twice the expected rate.
Thank you to everyone who has been praying and thinking of us over the last couple of months.
 

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Dr F, I am glad to hear that not only has your wife recovered enough to return home but may also be healing at twice the rate expected.

I have no doubt that you were very appreciative of the skill/knowledge, care, and concern demonstrated by the medical staff attending your wife.

I would not consider myself a Christian but I hope that prayers from me on such an occasion as this will be heard. If in fact it is an inappropriate thing for a non-Christian to do then I would hope the more learned Christians among us would let me know.
 

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tiddler, I agree with you on everything except one point.


You are worthy! whether you believe that or not. You are Kind, you are thinking of others, you believe in God, Why shouldn't you be worthy?

I must have worded my post badly, I in no way meant to further distract from the innate abilities/inteligence of people to endure such work purely because they care. I simply belive in a divine force that can intercede for the faithfull.

I guess there are many facets to this that I can't readily explain or communicate in a text based medium. Suffice to say:

tiddler said:
I do not believe God would force an individual to be caring, but he certainly will do his work through them once they have. So at least thank them for making a choice in life that provides God with the tools to help those in need.
This is at the crux of my faith and it's theological grounding in a secular world. This is why I thank you and all the others who care enough to take the time to post in this thread offering whatever support they can.

BTW, please thank Linda for me for choosing her profession, and choosing to stick with it through the hard times. :T
 

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Dr F, I did not in any way think you did not acknowledge or appreciate the people who work in the medical profession.

I have modified my original post to be more concise and express my concerns more accurately.

I apologize for going off topic, and assure you I am only sympathetic to your situation and hope that all turns out well for you, your wife, and your kids.
 

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Hi everyone,

Just a quick update:

My wife started a new drug with her last round of Chemo. The new drug Avastin is supposed to reduce the oxygen flow to the cancer cells thus prolonging life. The downside is that each fortnightly administration of the drug costs over $2000 Australian. A very costly drug but certainly worth more than anything else.

Thanks for all your support.

DrF
 

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That must be a pretty serious drug at that price, but as you say, most definitely worth it. I hope it does here well.
 

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No it's not. Unfortunately becasue the drug isn't a cure it currently isn't on the PBS. There is however a cap on the cost, once we have paid $18,000 the drug will be provided free for the remainder of her treatement (rest of her life).
 

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Time for another round of chemo tomorow, This week just gone has been a very good week and I hope that it means there will be no setbacks tomorow.
 

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Please give her our best wishes and hopes for everything to go well. Our thoughts and prayers will be with you both.
 

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its the second day (end of) and she is doing very well, this time there has been very little tiredness and high nuetrophyls (baby white blood cells) are the highest they have been since she started her treatment. All very good news so far.

thank you all for your support.

Dr F
 
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