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First let me say that I do not have very good typing skills so this many not be a good a read as some of the more well written reviews around but I will do my best.

Well after waiting for almost 3 months for the price to drop My wife and I finally bought the Onkyo TX SR805. I purchased it from eBay and this is the largest single purchase I have ever made using eBay and was really not sure if this was the right way to go. But it was by far the lowest price I could find for a brand new unit (not refurbished).

Day one:
I had the 805 shipped to my work as it was easier to deal with paying the brokerage fee and Taxes that were also due (the total price including all fees and shipping was still far less than what I would have payed locally). Believe it or not the lowest price I could get in Canada was $1,400 and I got it for almost half that.
At 55lbs the Onkyo and box is not easy to move around but I used a cart to move it into my office. The box arrived undamaged and for UPS this was a nice surprise as I have had some bad luck with them recently. The Onkyo was packaged really well, inside I found thick styrofoam (more than normal) surrounding all 4 sides and top and bottom with almost no sides exposed.
Once I got home I unboxed the unit and after unhooking my older Yamaha RX V995 (Onkyo had the forsite to include labels that can be attached to the speaker wires helping with this so I did not have to worry with them getting all mixed up) I placed the Onkyo 805 on our new entertainment credenza that we just bought and the first thing I noticed was its size, "Wow I said under my breath, thats quite the receiver" even powered off it looked like something to be reckoned with.
Even though I hate reading manuals I grabbed the manual for the Onkyo and flipped through it quickly Note: I have been working with audio equipment including live studio recording and front of house mixing for over 20 years so hooking this up was not a challenge. The manual is put together well and its easy to find chapters on specific items. The build quality out of the box is very good Its nice to see a company like Onkyo paying close attention to this as you don't see this often in consumer grade equipment. Another thing is because its made in Japan and not China or Mexico you can bet your bottom $$ that it was assembled well and will last.

The rear panel is one of the nicest I have seen and is organized in such a way that you get a very good idea without even reading the print where the speaker wires and components are attached. My system is wired for 7.1 so I proceeded to hook up the speakers one by one. I then hooked up the Toshiba A2 via HDMI, my outboard Audio control EQs and 4 channel Samson Servo 4120 that I have bridged into 2 ch. to the front pre outs on the Onkyo to power my front Mission 765s. I hooked up my Sanyo Z2 using a HDMI to DVI cable and atached the power cable to the rear of the Onkyo and powered up both the projector and receiver. I must say that the size and color of the display is better than I thought it would be and its easy to read even from a distance although the small symbles are not from farther than about 5 ft.
I flipped down the front trap door and again was impressed with the amount of hidden buttons that were available. I selected HDMI out for the OSD to be displayed on the projector and to my joy the fist time setup screen was seen. I grabbed the remote for the Onkyo that by the way is heavy compared to most I have used but I really like the feel and look of it and the layout of the buttons are well thought through. All the buttons are backlit are not too small and are easy to read in the dark. I did some searching through the menu just to see what it offered and there are a tone of things that a user can adjust.

One feature I really like is the fact that it doesn't have the inputs for HDMI or Component fixed to a specific labeled input of the receiver this means that I can assign the HDMI input 1 to a HDPVR or what ever I so choose. I also like the fact that I can relable the default displays label for example I can change DVD to HD DVD if I so choose.

Ok, now for the setup:
The first thing I started to do was the Audyssey MultEQ XT that the receiver uses. I pluged the supplied miciphone into the front jack and the OSD changed to the Audyssey setup screen. I placed the mic on a small tripod that I have and put it at the first listening position and selected "Ok" in the menu. It then showed a nice screen with 7 speakers and sub graphic and it proceeded to send a strange test tone (more of a WHOOP sound) to each speaker. This is a slightly time consuming process as it takes about 20 seconds for each speaker and you have to do this for each listening position (up to 8 and no less than 6) another thing is, you need to do this in complete silence to get a proper reading and at our house thats almost impossible as we have 5 girls aged 1 to 14 so I had to stop at this point until I have about 30 min of time where I can do this uninterrupted.

I will continue this review in the next day or so but though I would start now already.
 

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Day 2:
Well I had some time last night after the girls went to bed to set up the MultEQ XT and after all was done (I sampled 6 listening positions) I played a CD through the system (Lee Ritenour, Smoke in mirrors). The first thing I noticed was that the sound was much crisper with the Onkyo and the dynamics seemed to be fuller than my older Yamaha. The track Smoke in mirrors was full and the bass came through nice and clean and i heard things that I had not in previous listening sessions with this CD.

I then went int the setup menu and looked at the settings that it picked and was actually surprise as it seemed to measure distances from the listening positions fairly accurately (within half a foot) I love the fact that I can override the settings if I choose and it also sends pink noise out through each channel so I can balance them manually if I choose. The one other nice option that I found is that all 7 channels each have independent bass and treble controls.

I briefly had a chance to play part of a movie I grabbed Shriek the third HD DVD and played the opening 10 min of the movie. The video through the Onkyo is nothing but fantastic, I was actually impressed as it was a noticeable improvement over sending component directly from the Toshiba A2 to the projector. The image was sharp and clean and it did not have any noticeable rough edges sometimes seen with the Faroudja chip and the audio was splendid. I selected THX surround EX and the audio filled the room with a clarity that I have not heard before in my system the extra rear surrounds helped to fill the room and I felt like I was right there.

I will continue this review sometime tomorrow after I have some time to listen to more CDs and DVDs.

See below for part 3
 

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Excellent beginning and I can't wait for the final conclusions -- also great timing as I'm helping a friend put together a new system and this the precise receiver I was thinking would work best.

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This is also the same model I've been looking at...:T
 

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Thanks guys, I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to do this. I'm glad I did as it seems this will help allot of people make a choice.

I was considering going with the 875 but at $450 more I just couldn't justify it just to get the Rayon HQV chip although better than the Faroudja FL2300 video processing chip I just couldn't do it and thats really the only big advantage it has over the 805.

It even uses the newest and best BurrBrown 24bit/192kHz DACs on
all 7 channels and that cant be beat!
 

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Day 2 test results posted above. More to come. See below for part 3
 

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The first thing I noticed was that the sound was much crisper than with the Yamaha and the dynamics seemed to be fuller.
Did you mean "Yamaha" or "Onkyo" above... :scratch:
 

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Opps I will have to edit that.

The Onkyo sounded much cleaner than the Yamaha that I had. I think this is in part to the BurrBrown DAs that it uses and also the Push-Pull configuration of the Amplifier section that is only available in the 805 and 875.
 

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Nice job on the review Tony.......
Glad your enjoying it.....
When I got my Onkyo 604 they announced the new line of Onkyo's 3 weeks later............GRRRRRRRRRRRRR LOL
Enjoy it buddy it sounds like a great receiver.
 

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Thanks, I'm enjoying this.

Day 3, The final installment.
Well, this is where I start enjoying Listening to the audio quality of the receiver.
I decided to focus on the music side of things for this part as I can asume the if it does music well movies will only be better.
I put in a CD I really like Interpretations, Celebrating the music of Earth wind and fire. A compilation of music redone by various artists. Track 3 "September" sounded very clean and the receiver responded well to the more bassy sound as the CD was recorded with lots of low bass thus giving the system a good workout. I first listened to it in direct pure audio mode and although this mode turns off the sub and only outputs to the two front speakers.
The sound was rich and free of any enhancements. "now, I said to myself this must be how it was recorded" I liked it so much that i listened to track 8 "After the love is gone" another nice remake of the original, the vocals were nice and full and the harmony of the background singers blended in well.
Ok, so now that I listened to it in pure mode i wanted to hear the same tracks in Dolby DPL II mode This mode takes the left and right channels and adds the center channel for vocals and to be honest I actually like this mode better. The stereo image was still very present but it added something to the mix that i felt made it even more dynamic. Ok so now lets hear how loud this can go I thought....I turned the volume up to +5db loud enough that I couldn't hear myself talking I would say about 100db and the track "September" came through as clean as I could possibly imagine. It wasn't boomy or too shrill and still the system played without any hesitation or distortion.

Now I got out a favorite CD that I bring to audition any system I listen to when in my favorite Audio store. Flim & the BB's, Big notes the track "Funhouse" is a great test for how well a system handles lows and highs.
There is a part just as the door slams and the train horn is heard that just shakes every part of the house. Again the receiver did this without any troubles and at about the same volume level that I had before. I have never heard my Mission 765 speakers sound so good:bigsmile:

One thing I will note is that the Onkyo's sound is defiantly more on the natural side with little to no push on any of the frequencies (I atribut this mostly to the receivers Audyssey MultEQ XT setup) where I found that the Yamaha was warmer sounding so I had to get used to it. I may do some fine tuning of the EQ settings as time goes on but for now I couldn't be happier.

I highly recommend the Onkyo TX SR805 to anyone who is looking for a serious receiver but dosnt want to break the bank because you would have to pay more than twice as much (at least $2000) to get anything comparable.

I might also add that the Onkyo website is a little misleading with regards to displaying OSD over HDMI as it does show all the setup and adjustments menus for the receiver over HDMI but does not show any volume or input labels on screen. Fortunately the display on the Onkyo is large enough and easy to see what you are doing even from a distance of 12 feet.

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There have been several reports floating around about the Onkyo's in general getting very hot! This is not the case at all and seems to be an issue of not having the receiver set up properly for driving your speakers. In the Menu there is a setting for what Ohm setting your speakers are and it must be set correctly or damage can result because of excessive heat (driving a set of 6 or 4ohm speakers with this setting in 8ohms is never a good idea). This would be the same for any brand of receiver.

This receiver should NOT be placed inside of a rack unless it is ventilated by a fan as with any receiver in this class.
 
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I actually ordered mine yesterday! Now I just have to wait until the house is finished!! :hissyfit:
 

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Ok, here is a question apparently there is a hidden menu on the Onkyo 805 as well as other models. I cant find any info as to how to get to it as well as what I can do in this menu, Any ideas anyone?
 

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This review made me smile as normally due to me being a "high ender", I get flamed when I espouse the differences in sound in amplifiers and the like. Well, here's a man that's bought a new AVR and can tell right away that it just simply sounds better.

Thanks for the review and enjoy your new piece. Don't let anybody tell you that it's all in your mind...in reality; it's all in your ears! :T
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Nice job Tony, I have been on the fence about this one. Either I get the 805, or maybe the 875, but again I really don't need the extra video processing, or I move into separates. Still undecided. I have had great past experience with Onkyo products, though. I am still using an 12yr-old 2 channel TX-8511. That thing is a workhorse. Enjoy the new gear. I will be keeping an eye on this machine, after I get some new Main speakers, I am upgrading to at least 5.1, more likely 7.1 electronics. Then I will add a center, sub and surrounds.
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Enjoy the new gear. I will be keeping an eye on this machine, after I get some new Main speakers, I am upgrading to at least 5.1, more likely 7.1 electronics. Then I will add a center, sub and surrounds.
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Thanks, We are enjoying the system I have it running 7.1 so its about as good as it gets. My only regret right now is that there is not many good movies available on BluRay or HD DVD right now or for that matter SD DVD So we have not watched much recently. We are not going to replace any of our collection of SD DVDs with High Def. and we have seen almost everything worth seeing in our opinion. Oh well, Music is something i never get tired of and the Onkyo does a great job of that as well.
 

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Ok, here is a question apparently there is a hidden menu on the Onkyo 805 as well as other models. I cant find any info as to how to get to it as well as what I can do in this menu, Any ideas anyone?
Tony, check the first post of the 705 FAQ thread over at AVS. Should have instructions for accessing the menu...same steps for 705 and 805, IIRC. It allows you to force 720p upconversion and maybe one or two other things.

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This review made me smile as normally due to me being a "high ender", I get flamed when I espouse the differences in sound in amplifiers and the like. Well, here's a man that's bought a new AVR and can tell right away that it just simply sounds better.

Thanks for the review and enjoy your new piece. Don't let anybody tell you that it's all in your mind...in reality; it's all in your ears! :T
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Konky, check post #11 a little closer. As one of those objectivists, I have to point out Tony does attribute some/most of the difference to the Audyssey EQ. Once you add any EQ to the equation, all bets are off in comparing the amplifier section or even the sound of the unit as a whole. The outgoing Yamaha 995 didn't even have YPAO, Yamaha's own room correction product.

Also, the 995 gives up 20 pounds to the 805, most likely in the amp section. The 805's amps are THX Ultra certified. Say what you want about THX certification, it still requires the unit's amps to deliver the power as specified and be stable into 4 ohm loads (actually, 3.2 I believe). Depending on how hard Tony's speakers are to drive and how loud he's listening, the 995 could have been on the ragged edge of its power envelope and the 805 still have some reserve left. Cleaner louder usually sounds better, even when levels are matched.

That's not even getting into the shortness of our auditory memory, level matching, etc...

There's no question that amps, or any other component, can be designed to sound different. Better is in the ear of the listener. However, from the measurements I've seen, Yamaha and Onkyo don't appear to be into shaping their amplifier's response functions.

Just another point of view. Peace.

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Hi Brent, thanks for the note on the hidden menu. I will check it out.

Just for your info The Onkyo even sounds better in Direct mode as it turns off all internal processing and only runs in two ch mode. its a night and day difference between the Yamaha and the Onkyo.

My Mission 765 speakers are 4 ohm and this really made a difference. Although I'm now using my external Samson amp that has 240watts per channel to run my mains.

Here are the spec's on the Mission 765's:

2 way reflex
38-20,000hz
4ohm
sensitivity 93db
Max SPL 113db
200watts
crossover 2.3khz
Efective volume 57 litres
 

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I'm considering either the 805 or 875 but have heard lots of complaints about the heat they put out.

How hot do they get?

Do you think strapping a 12cm low noise fan on top of the case and plugged into one of the 12v triggers would help alleviate the problem?

Also TonyVdb...I'm in Canada too, how much did you get gouged on duty brining it over the border?
 
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