like i said i always make low offers because I dont know if i can do anything with them or not. if the people dont like my offer for a non working tv then they can hold onto it. I'm not sure if you have a local craigslist for your area or not. When i see something on craigslist if the model isnt listed then i ask them what model it is and what is it doing and not doing. like any flashing lights or any lights on at all. if flashing how many flashes until it pauses and flashes again. Then I do online searches to try and find out what it could be. The one person I contacted them they were to far away from me But the issue they were having samsung was fixing for free. About 2 weeks later they sent me a thank you email saying that samsung sent a guy out and now their tv works like new again. They had the white dot issue with a year and a half old samsung dlp tv.