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Cool. You moved those single chairs to the back. Additional seating for the second row. Looks very good. Also, more spacious in terms of moving around. Excellent work! :)
 

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Man that's a lot of speakers!!!! The one thing I wish I had was a layout like yours that enabled me to install more speakers. I may go up to 7.1 with front heights as that would really be my only feasible option but I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Nice setup Peter! Looking forward to seeing more progress pics as you move forward with your plans.
 

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Thanks guys.

Man that's a lot of speakers!!!! The one thing I wish I had was a layout like yours that enabled me to install more speakers. I may go up to 7.1 with front heights as that would really be my only feasible option but I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Nice setup Peter! Looking forward to seeing more progress pics as you move forward with your plans.
Mike - adding front heights is worth trying. I have only tried front wides so far, but to be honest they made a much more noticeable difference than adding rear surrounds to a standard 5.1 configuration. I would expect the same to be true of front heights.
 

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how do you like the surrounds mounted to the side wall and the rear walls? if your not in a sweet spot is it still enveloping? i am guessing you send the same surround signal split to the sides and the surround back to the rear ( 7.1 ) ? thanks.

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Looks great! With the size of the room and the vaulted ceilings I'll bet the sound is really rich and incredible
 

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Although I've almost knocked them down a few times while working on the wiring (standing up while forgetting I was crouched below one :duh:). Only my own clumsiness to worry about :dizzy:
It's refreshing to read that I'm not alone in this. It's funny how we concentrate on something to the exclusion of others, until...plunk...oh, yeah. :clap: All one can do is laugh and hope it was just embarrassing.

It looks awesome so far. The drapery material appears to do a good job of blocking light...as long as they're fully closed. ;) You're right about the rear speakers after the riser is in place - they'll need to be higher. Man, I'm familiar with that circumstance too. The good news is that, after putting up 6 of them, you're an expert at the chore now.

It's fun to watch these threads in which a 'finished' setup progresses. The initial setup looked great and comfy, too, if not ideally arranged for viewing pleasure. I do appreciate the clean look obtained from installing the gear in a closet and I like what it did for your speaker arrangement/environment. It just gets better and better! :T

9.1 eh, I bet that pans smoothly and convincingly (not a complaint, but...). Do you think we'll eventually have a couple dozen speakers arrayed about our rooms? I find 4.1 (no center) immersive. I imagine 9.1 is amazing.
 

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Looking good Peter. I need to make it back to Houston some time and check your system out.
 

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how do you like the surrounds mounted to the side wall and the rear walls? if your not in a sweet spot is it still enveloping? i am guessing you send the same surround signal split to the sides and the surround back to the rear ( 7.1 ) ? thanks. dave
The two sets of speakers on the side walls are my side surrounds (basically aligned with the 3-seat couch) and the front wides (located closer to the front of the room). Altogether it is capable of 9.1. My eventual goal is to add front heights and also angle the front wides toward the listening area, but for now they work nicely even with less than ideal alignment.

There is a definite sweet spot at the primary listening position which is ok for most of the time since it's usually just me using it. One of my short term goals is to work on the room acoustics and seating arrangement to improve surround effects and bass response in the non primary listening seats. That is partially why I have not finalized plans for a seating riser or purchased recliners. I would also like to experiment with dipole/bipole and possibly omnipolar surrounds at some point. All budget dependent though.

Looks great! With the size of the room and the vaulted ceilings I'll bet the sound is really rich and incredible
It's a pretty ideal space for the HT with lots of freedom in terms of speaker and seating arrangements. I plan to improve the acoustic treatments but for now the overall sound is quite good IMO.

It's refreshing to read that I'm not alone in this. It's funny how we concentrate on something to the exclusion of others, until...plunk...oh, yeah. :clap: All one can do is laugh and hope it was just embarrassing. It looks awesome so far. The drapery material appears to do a good job of blocking light...as long as they're fully closed. ;) You're right about the rear speakers after the riser is in place - they'll need to be higher. Man, I'm familiar with that circumstance too. The good news is that, after putting up 6 of them, you're an expert at the chore now. It's fun to watch these threads in which a 'finished' setup progresses. The initial setup looked great and comfy, too, if not ideally arranged for viewing pleasure. I do appreciate the clean look obtained from installing the gear in a closet and I like what it did for your speaker arrangement/environment. It just gets better and better! :T 9.1 eh, I bet that pans smoothly and convincingly (not a complaint, but...). Do you think we'll eventually have a couple dozen speakers arrayed about our rooms? I find 4.1 (no center) immersive. I imagine 9.1 is amazing.
Yes, my style is to do things in smaller increments (although I do enjoy following the ground-up theater builds). I do one level of improvements/upgrades and soon get ideas for more. All part of the fun of the hobby. I agree that something like a 4.1 or 5.1 system can sound extremely good with careful setup. I plan to eventually go to 11.1 at which point I don't imagine there will be much merit in adding more speakers to the room. Many believe that to be the case with 5.1, although front wides have made a very noticeable difference IMO. Either way, I enjoy tinkering and experimenting with different options.

Looking good Peter. I need to make it back to Houston some time and check your system out.
Absolutely! Another Houston get together would be fun.


Thanks for all the comments guys. I'm still cleaning up some wiring, so I'll have a few more pics to post soon. I also have a receiver review in progress so that's taking priority over some of the changes to the room for now.
 

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Hey folks, getting back into an HTS groove after a somewhat crazy Nov-Jan. I did manage to make some small progress on some changes to my home theater over the last few months. No functional changes, but some much needed cosmetic improvements.

First, the never ending wiring project. I changed my mind about how I wanted to route and conceal wiring when I decided to move my gear from below the TV into the closet. Unfortunately this meant disconnecting everything and having a mostly non-functional HT for a few months.

The effort worth it though, as my AV rack wiring no longer resembles a rat's nest, and there is no longer a big bundle of wires laying on the floor around the perimeter of the room. The room is now wired for up to 11.4 channel configuration. I opted against constructing my own hollow baseboard and chose instead to use some off-the-shelf wire ducts from Wiremold. The Cablemate series had just enough capacity to handle the big bundles going into either side of the AV closet, and were relatively easy to mount. They don't give quite the polished look I would have liked, but saved me the time and hassle of building something from scratch. One criteria of my overall build is to do things in a way that could be pretty easily reversed, in case it becomes essential for us to use this room for another purpose at some point. The Wiremold ducts are pretty easily removable, and would only leave behind some screw holes and a few spots for wires to enter the walls.

You can see a few "before" pictures in some of the posts above. Here are some shots of the finished product. As you can see, the joints look a little tacky but I doubt they'll be as noticeable to anyone else as they are to me. I could also paint them to match the wall color. Either way, it looks 100 times better than loose wires cluttering the floor. That along with finally painting the patches on the back wall has made a big difference for me.



I also upgraded my remote to the URC R40. It is pretty simple to program (no PC software required) and easy to use. I have a Lutron IR controlled light dimmer switch as well which the URC is programmed to control. I use a Monoprice IR repeater with the sensor mounted just above my TV. It works great and allows me to conceal all of my gear in the closet.

The photos don't show much change, but the wiring (re-wiring, I should say) took the bulk of the time. I'm glad to be done with it for now. Next on the list are bass traps (I plan to purchase a set of GIK tri-traps in the next month or so), and risers for the rear seating row. I have some other minor cosmetic upgrades in the works and will post photos of those when finished. Beyond that, I plan to upgrade my acoustic treatments on the side wall - from 2" to 4" thick, and with a 2" air gap between the wall and panels. Don't know if it will happen this year but I'm itching for a sub upgrade as well. Not sure yet what I'll get but I'll most likely go dual or quad to help with even response throughout the room (you can see in the photos that the rear corners of the room are wired for subs). A work in progress, as always.
 

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Looking good that remote looks sweet! I need to clean and reset my Harmony remote my daughter must have thought it was thirsty and gave it some coke:(.
 

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Looking good that remote looks sweet! I need to clean and reset my Harmony remote my daughter must have thought it was thirsty and gave it some coke:(.
Water is a much better option for keeping your remote properly hydrated :whistling:

Thanks guys, I definitely do NOT miss the tangled wires laying around.
 

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I bought some black Wiremold about a year ago and it is still sitting in the garage, keeping absolutely nothing straightened out:).
 

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Looking good Peter. Wire management is something my HT is missing. Don't ever look behind the rack...be afraid, be very afraid.
 

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I decided to do another cosmetic update to the room. I started a few months ago, and it just took me a while to finish. The front wall is now covered with a heavy black curtain to hide the doors and give a more uniform look to the front stage. I also added some accent lighting under the valence of the curtain for fun, since I had an RGB LED strip laying around. I'm very pleased with the result, and glad I took the time to do it. Though I think it makes my TV look even smaller. In hindsight, it would have made more sense to flip the room so the doors were in the back and use a projector, but wiring would have been a little more difficult at the time. Live and learn. Here are a few pictures of the new look. I will try to add some with better lighting.

Again, a little dark but you can just make out the speakers up front. No more doors :)


Well, sort of...


Accent lighting


Seating - no changes here really. MLP is in the center of the front row. Next project is to elevate the 2nd row.


Right side: front wide and surround speaker


Left side: front wide and surround speakers


A little more on my speaker arrangement... I currently have the room wired for 11.1 (up to 4 subs if I ever get there). The speakers mounted on the side walls closest to the front wall are the front wides. Although they are not currently pointed toward the MLP like you would expect, this was the easiest way to mount them, and the MLP is actually not too far off axis. The effect is still very good. I have brackets to mount them at an angle... just need to put them up. My front height speakers are mounted a little over 7 feet above the floor, about two feet outside of the main left and right speakers (on the shelves in the corners above the curtain/valence). The layout looks a lot like Audyssey DSX with a slight deviation from the Dolby PLIIz and DTS NEO:X recommendations for height channel placement. In my opinion they still function perfectly fine as PLIIz/Neo:X heights. Having said that... Dolby Atmos may change things up a bit, as it uses ceiling mounted height speakers as opposed to front wall mounted. I am tentatively planning to keep the front heights and front wides in their current positions, and eventually add a pair of ceiling speakers for Atmos, like this. It will allow me to test pretty much any speaker configuration for my receiver reviews, and give me lots of flexibility in general, even though the first generation of Atmos home cinema can only process 11 channels at once. "only"...
 
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