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Has anyone had any experience with any of the Resonant Engineering (RE) subs? I know only of their XXX 18, but have come to find out that they make quite a few other subs. One in particular models nicely for what I want. (RE SE-15)

Any info would be great. On any of their subs for that matter.

Thanks,
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Ricci has a XXX 18. He's bringing it down my way on the 18th to have a run at my subwoofer shootout. From the looks of it, it has crazy throw to it. Apparently sounds very good too. Not quite as clean as a LMS, but very close.
It's a 5.7 ft box tuned to 19.8hz.
A bigger box would give you more low end extension if this for HT unless you have a box size restriction.

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I've only got experience with the one line of subs, but their SE, SX and even the MX series look solid. The SE15 should be a nice sub for a build.
A bigger box would give you more low end extension if this for HT unless you have a box size restriction.

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This is what I am talking about! Mine models totaly different from the graph you have! I wonder what the difference in input parameters could be?
Here's the WinISD file for the SE15. Save the file to the "Drivers" folder in WinISD.

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Somehow my VAS input parameters were way off. This made a huge impact on the size of the enclosure as well as the output.

I would still like to model one of these in a sealed box, but I don't really know what I am seeing when I do. Ah well, that is another thread. (I like the looks of these drivers as well as the price. From the fact that they make the XXX, it leads me to believe that their other products must be at least of acceptable quality. Marketing perhaps?????)
Here's the SPL graph of the difference between sealed and ported with a 240 watt plate amp that has a high pass filter at 18 hz.

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Some say the new RE subs are cheaply made but I'm not sure about that. I have been very impressed with the new versions. Several of their drivers model very well. In fact, I know these aren't in the same league as what you are talking about but I built a computer sub using a pair of newer RE8s that sounds fantastic! It has an in-room response flat to 20Hz. Not bad for a small computer sub using some inexpensive 8" stamped drivers. If the SE15 looks to meet your needs, I would not hesitate to give it a shot.

Mike
I was looking at the RE Audio SE 10" sub for my room, but was told that 2 Dayton 12" calssic woofers would be better. Do you agree?

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I was looking at the RE Audio SE 10" sub for my room, but was told that 2 Dayton 12" calssic woofers would be better. Do you agree?

Thanks
Two 12" woofers will almost always work out better than one 10". However, the Daytons have very low excursion so you will need to keep that in mind. What is your budget and what is the application? Maybe there are other (better) options?

Mike
Two 12" woofers will almost always work out better than one 10". However, the Daytons have very low excursion so you will need to keep that in mind. What is your budget and what is the application? Maybe there are other (better) options?

Mike
My max budget is $425, but I would like to keep it below $400, if possible. I was thinking about getting the CSS Kit found here for a HT application:
http://www.creativesound.ca/details.php?model=QUARTET10
But, I can't decide if I should get the Shiva-x with the Dayton SA 240 watt amp or the CSS Kit. :mooooh:
Or, is there something better than those that I talked about just above here?

Thanks
OK, now we are talking about some good woofers. The Shiva-X is in my opinion, one of the best values available. It is an AMAZING woofer for the price! With 27mm one-way excursion and 600 watts power handing, it can easily best almost all of the woofers we have been talking about here. There is a lot of support for the Shiva out here on the forums too. It is definitely one of the good ones. However, I would give it a little more power than that Dayton amp if you can afford to. The O Audio 500 watt amp is very nice (I have one) and would mate perfectly to the Shiva but that pushes you right to your budget limit.

I have also seen the CSS stuff but don't know much about it.

Mike
OK, now we are talking about some good woofers. The Shiva-X is in my opinion, one of the best values available. It is an AMAZING woofer for the price! With 27mm one-way excursion and 600 watts power handing, it can easily best almost all of the woofers we have been talking about here. There is a lot of support for the Shiva out here on the forums too. It is definitely one of the good ones. However, I would give it a little more power than that Dayton amp if you can afford to. The O Audio 500 watt amp is very nice (I have one) and would mate perfectly to the Shiva but that pushes you right to your budget limit.

I have also seen the CSS stuff but don't know much about it.

Mike
Ok. If the box is big enough, could I just run two Dayton SA240 watt amps to it, and have it equal close to the output of the O Audio amp?

Thanks
Well, since the Shiva-X is a dual coil woofer, you *COULD* do that (if you were absolutely sure the amount of power going to each coil was the same) but it isn't very elegant or even advised. Why do this anyway? It isn't cost effective. Two of the Dayton 240 watt amps will cost you $218 plus tax and shipping. The O Audio amp is only $229. The shipping would also be less with the O Audio because it is a LOT lighter than two of the Daytons. So basically, it is a wash price wise and the O Audio amp is WAY more energy efficient than two Daytons. Do you already own the Dayton amps or something?

Before I would wire two Daytons to the same woofer, I would just suck it up an use the lower power of one Dayton if I really had to go that way.

Mike
Well, since the Shiva-X is a dual coil woofer, you *COULD* do that (if you were absolutely sure the amount of power going to each coil was the same) but it isn't very elegant or even advised. Why do this anyway? It isn't cost effective. Two of the Dayton 240 watt amps will cost you $218 plus tax and shipping. The O Audio amp is only $229. The shipping would also be less with the O Audio because it is a LOT lighter than two of the Daytons. So basically, it is a wash price wise and the O Audio amp is WAY more energy efficient than two Daytons. Do you already own the Dayton amps or something?

Before I would wire two Daytons to the same woofer, I would just suck it up an use the lower power of one Dayton if I really had to go that way.

Mike
No, I don't have the Dayton amps. And I was just wondering I it would be possible, and I dounbt I would hae done that anyways. The only thing I like about the CSS kit is the fact that you can adjust the PR's very easily, but, is the 300 watt amp any good for it? I see that is says that the amp has been modified. Do you know what this means?

Thanks
I don't know how the 300 watt amp has been modified. Hopefully, they added a high pass filter so you don't blow the woofer below the tuning frequency but my guess is the change is simply moving the bass boost to a different place and level based on the recommended cabinet size and tuning.

If you change the tuning of the PRs by adding or removing weight/mass, you will likely want (need) to change the cabinet size as well. These changes have to be made carefully and should be modeled first to make sure they are going to work.

If you want to customize the tuning frequency of the Shiva-X box, that is easy too. Just add a PR ($$$) or a port (cheap) and tune it to whatever you want. Again, modeling is important before you get into the complexities of changing tuning.

The simple build is a sealed cabinet and it would sound very good too. If you still want more output after that, you can always move to a ported cabinet or add a PR later. ...Or even build another sealed Shiva-X later. :bigsmile:

Mike
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I don't know how the 300 watt amp has been modified. Hopefully, they added a high pass filter so you don't blow the woofer below the tuning frequency but my guess is the change is simply moving the bass boost to a different place and level based on the recommended cabinet size and tuning.

If you change the tuning of the PRs by adding or removing weight/mass, you will likely want (need) to change the cabinet size as well. These changes have to be made carefully and should be modeled first to make sure they are going to work.

If you want to customize the tuning frequency of the Shiva-X box, that is easy too. Just add a PR ($$$) or a port (cheap) and tune it to whatever you want. Again, modeling is important before you get into the complexities of changing tuning.

The simple build is a sealed cabinet and it would sound very good too. If you still want more output after that, you can always move to a ported cabinet or add a PR later. ...Or even build another sealed Shiva-X later. :bigsmile:

Mike
How much is a PR for the Shiva-x?

Edit: Which set up would hit harder? The Shiva, or the CSS Kit? I will mostly be listening to Rock and some KMK, but maybe a couple movies. For the rock, I would like it to be able to hit Really hard, and not sound muddled, if you want to call it that. But, also on KMK, I would like it to be able to pick up the lows, and be able to handle them. Is there just one or the other for Rock and Rap?

Thanks
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