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Calibrated the soundcard with the Mic100 in the loop, and got lots of loopback. Took out the pre, and the card was a piece of cake. But when I tried to take actual measurements with the SPL meter, I couldn't turn the input up high enough for it to register. Put the pre back in, adjusted sensitivity and gain, and the measurement worked without a hitch. Came out flat, too.
Anybody know what I need to do to use the Xonar Essence STX without a preamp? In Default there was not nearly enough signal; set as "Speaker - ASUS PCI" and "Line In - ASUS PCI" it would register the signal, but I couldn't get it near the "-12dB" level to match the output without adding the pre. Best I saw card-only was about -60dB.
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Hello guys!
First time here... Just getting into REW, I was able to get it going using my RS Digital SPL... I have already eyed a Dayton EMM-6.. looking for sound device that I can use as output/input, phantom power, loopback for calibration, etc.... So far I like the Behringer 302USB Premium 5-Input Mixer with XENYX Mic Preamp and USB/Audio Interface on Amazon. I can't post the link yet, but you can find it quickly on Amazon. Have any of you tried it? It seems perfect as far as I know, but haven't seen any reports that it works for REW.
Thanks in advance
First time here... Just getting into REW, I was able to get it going using my RS Digital SPL... I have already eyed a Dayton EMM-6.. looking for sound device that I can use as output/input, phantom power, loopback for calibration, etc.... So far I like the Behringer 302USB Premium 5-Input Mixer with XENYX Mic Preamp and USB/Audio Interface on Amazon. I can't post the link yet, but you can find it quickly on Amazon. Have any of you tried it? It seems perfect as far as I know, but haven't seen any reports that it works for REW.
Thanks in advance
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Thanks EarlK,
Is there any advantage of using this mic over using the beringer 302 with the dayton mic? (Assuming the Beringer 302 can be used with REW).
Is there any advantage of using this mic over using the beringer 302 with the dayton mic? (Assuming the Beringer 302 can be used with REW).
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The Behringer 302 won’t work with REW because it is not a full duplex sound card. You’ll have to move up to the 502.
Regards,
Wayne
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Thank you Wayne!
eliwankenobi,
If you decide to buy any of these ( Behringer USB connectable ) mixers, make sure you have mapped out , "a no fuss, no muss" return policy with the retailer, should the mixer not work out .
From what I can glean ( from reading the Op. manuals ) when used in full duplex mode, they all ( Xenyx models ) have a built-in "feed-back loop", rendering them ( if I'm correct ) useless for REW measurement .
Conceivably, one could operate these mixer types as a one-way device, used only on the input ( to break the feedback loop ) & then use the computers built-in soundcard for output .
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If you decide to buy any of these ( Behringer USB connectable ) mixers, make sure you have mapped out , "a no fuss, no muss" return policy with the retailer, should the mixer not work out .
From what I can glean ( from reading the Op. manuals ) when used in full duplex mode, they all ( Xenyx models ) have a built-in "feed-back loop", rendering them ( if I'm correct ) useless for REW measurement .
Conceivably, one could operate these mixer types as a one-way device, used only on the input ( to break the feedback loop ) & then use the computers built-in soundcard for output .
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Thanks EarlK
I kept checking and have not found anyone who have used it successfully, so I will probably go with the ART USB Pre. The Beringer I could find for cheap on Amazon, which is why I was asking for that one since I have a bunch gift cards that I've not used and could get a nice mic and usb pre for Free.
No reason to get the usb mike UMM-6 over the ART/EMM-6 combo right?
Has anyone successfully used the EMU 0204 with REW?
I'm looking for a sound-card with, ideally, better specs than the Tascam and other units typically used, as I'd like to use it for other types of measurements as well (amp/DAC testing etc.).
The above-mentioned EMU unit seems to meet those requirements without breaking the bank - if you are willing to take the risk with the sub-par EMU driver support, I suppose.
I'm looking for a sound-card with, ideally, better specs than the Tascam and other units typically used, as I'd like to use it for other types of measurements as well (amp/DAC testing etc.).
The above-mentioned EMU unit seems to meet those requirements without breaking the bank - if you are willing to take the risk with the sub-par EMU driver support, I suppose.
Hello All . . .
I am using a STA Audio Media 7.1 sound card . . . I was able to successfully calibrate it . I also used the UMIK-1 mic along with a analog RS SPL meter . The company that made the STA Audio went out of business some time ago , and hence , driver support is nill . I am fortunate in that I have had no problems using the driver that was released by the New Company that bought STA ( Hoontech ).
I am using a STA Audio Media 7.1 sound card . . . I was able to successfully calibrate it . I also used the UMIK-1 mic along with a analog RS SPL meter . The company that made the STA Audio went out of business some time ago , and hence , driver support is nill . I am fortunate in that I have had no problems using the driver that was released by the New Company that bought STA ( Hoontech ).
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Hello All,
just wanted to give a quick update... I read and read that the UMIK-1 was more than enough and recommended for home theater, I checked, and due to shipping costs to Puerto Rico, it turns out that getting it from Cross-Spectrum is actually the same total price as getting it straight from miniDSP...so there you go...Cross-Spectrum calibrated UMIK-1.. I wait for you!!
just wanted to give a quick update... I read and read that the UMIK-1 was more than enough and recommended for home theater, I checked, and due to shipping costs to Puerto Rico, it turns out that getting it from Cross-Spectrum is actually the same total price as getting it straight from miniDSP...so there you go...Cross-Spectrum calibrated UMIK-1.. I wait for you!!
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Any suggestions for those of us who are running a Mac with Mavericks? I have an RS analogue SPL meter and I have an Antimode 8033 mic on the way with its MicAmp (needed a longer mic cable than the one the 8033 came with and shipping was the same if I added the MicAmp, plus the 8033 mic has a calibration file ready to download from DSPeakers). I guess the ideal would be a sound card with which REW is already equipped to run?Read this ;( click the pic )
The UMIK-1 is considered the best solution for those on a budget ( assuming you're not on a Mac running Mavericks ) .
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The UMIK-1 mic from miniDSP is still the most economical solution ( whether one is using a Mac or Windows OS ) .
The REW problem ( JavaMac incompatibility with Mavericks ) looks to have been fixed with JohnM's latest ( Beta 21 release ) .
Beta Download Thread
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I considered that but as I needed the extra 8033 mic anyway, the accompanying mic amp was about the same price as the umik. Unfortunately, I placed my order (already shipped) before I discovered my sound card doesn't want to play nice with REW. Otherwise, I'd have ordered--based on your post here--a umik. Having gone through this thread, I decided to get a Berhinger UCA222 (202 equivalent but with digital output--newer model) so I can connect the 8033 mic to REW. if this doesn't work, I'll get a umik and chalk it up to the cost of experimenting. But thanks for the info.
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Re: REW Sound Card Database - Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro
REW Sound Card Compatibility
Would I be able to use the below external USB sound card and a UMIK-1 with REW 5.01?
Thanks!
RE: Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro (USB) External Soundcard
•Audio Processor
X-Fi
•SBX Pro Studio
Yes
•Max. Playback Quality
USB 2.0:
Stereo / Surround: 24-bit / 96kHz
USB 1.1:
Stereo: 24-bit / 96kHz
Surround: 16-bit / 48kHz
•Max. Recording Quality
24-bit / 96kHz
•Output
5.1 Channels
•Key Features
•Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR)
100dB
•Upmixing of Stereo to Multi-channels
Yes
•Connectivity Options (Main)
Headphone Out:
1 x 3.5mm jack
Line Out:
2 x RCA jacks (L/R)
1 x 3.5mm jack (Rear)
1 x 3.5mm jack (C/Sub)
Line In:
1 x 3.5mm jack
Microphone In:
1 x 3.5mm jack
Optical Out:
1 x TOSLINK
•EAX
EAX Advanced 5.0
•Dolby Digital Live Encoding
Yes
•Audio Fidelity
Up to 24-bit / 96kHz
•Software & Compatibility
•Supported Operating Systems
Windows® 8
Windows® 7
Windows Vista® SP1 or higher
Windows® XP SP2 or higher
•Compatible Platform
USB 1.1
USB 2.0
REW Sound Card Compatibility
Would I be able to use the below external USB sound card and a UMIK-1 with REW 5.01?
Thanks!
RE: Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro (USB) External Soundcard
•Audio Processor
X-Fi
•SBX Pro Studio
Yes
•Max. Playback Quality
USB 2.0:
Stereo / Surround: 24-bit / 96kHz
USB 1.1:
Stereo: 24-bit / 96kHz
Surround: 16-bit / 48kHz
•Max. Recording Quality
24-bit / 96kHz
•Output
5.1 Channels
•Key Features
•Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR)
100dB
•Upmixing of Stereo to Multi-channels
Yes
•Connectivity Options (Main)
Headphone Out:
1 x 3.5mm jack
Line Out:
2 x RCA jacks (L/R)
1 x 3.5mm jack (Rear)
1 x 3.5mm jack (C/Sub)
Line In:
1 x 3.5mm jack
Microphone In:
1 x 3.5mm jack
Optical Out:
1 x TOSLINK
•EAX
EAX Advanced 5.0
•Dolby Digital Live Encoding
Yes
•Audio Fidelity
Up to 24-bit / 96kHz
•Software & Compatibility
•Supported Operating Systems
Windows® 8
Windows® 7
Windows Vista® SP1 or higher
Windows® XP SP2 or higher
•Compatible Platform
USB 1.1
USB 2.0
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Budget REW setup
Hi all,
looking for a budget REW setup. Thinking of buying the Dayton EMM-6 mic and some kind of sound card (2 input/ 2 output) to get the timing reference feature. Looked at the Beringer UM2 as a cheap sound card, will it work? If not, may you please help me pick another one from the site thomann.de/se/cat.html?gf=usb_ljudinterface&oa=pra
I live in Sweden and this site offer many alternatives at good pricing.
BR Niklas
Edit 12/11/21
Just found an SB X-Fi 5.1 (SB1090) I had forgotten about. Guess this will work, but still need a pre-micamp for the phantom power. Any suggestions?
Will the X-Fi card work for timing alignment (timing reference feature)?
Hi all,
looking for a budget REW setup. Thinking of buying the Dayton EMM-6 mic and some kind of sound card (2 input/ 2 output) to get the timing reference feature. Looked at the Beringer UM2 as a cheap sound card, will it work? If not, may you please help me pick another one from the site thomann.de/se/cat.html?gf=usb_ljudinterface&oa=pra
I live in Sweden and this site offer many alternatives at good pricing.
BR Niklas
Edit 12/11/21
Just found an SB X-Fi 5.1 (SB1090) I had forgotten about. Guess this will work, but still need a pre-micamp for the phantom power. Any suggestions?
Will the X-Fi card work for timing alignment (timing reference feature)?
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I have successfully gotten REW and Holmsresponse to work with this arrangement:
Behringer UMC204 USB interface
calibrated Dayton EMM-6 (was using an un-calibrated Behringer EMC8000 but sold that as it had a lot of low frequency noise).
I have had a lot of success using ASIO drivers. A few tricks to be aware of. I was completely unable to use ASIO 4ALL, the drivers didn't work for me. Just use the latest ASIO Behringer drivers. I can get 96khz sampling rates in REW and the Java drivers in REW will limit this to 48khz sampling rates.
Also, the unit can be a bit temperamental so I use a dedicated laptop and make sure I always plug the USB connector into the same USB port - hard to believe but swapping USB ports can screw things up!
As a note, the frequency response of the Behringer is 1-db at 5hz and 50,000hz (from memory). I did the feedback loop calibration and to be honest I don't even use it whilst testing as it is well beyond the limits of my speakers anyway. I guess if I was testing a subwoofer I would use it.
On another note I have noticed that this unit seems to suffer a lot from latency problems. Even at "safe" settings using ASIO drivers, whilst listening to music, there are small glitches in the audio stream about once every 10 seconds and there is some smearing of the sound. Luckily I can use another USB DAC for the purposes of listening to music but based on my experiences whilst I would recommend it for speaker testing, I would not recommend this unit for listening to music.
Behringer UMC204 USB interface
calibrated Dayton EMM-6 (was using an un-calibrated Behringer EMC8000 but sold that as it had a lot of low frequency noise).
I have had a lot of success using ASIO drivers. A few tricks to be aware of. I was completely unable to use ASIO 4ALL, the drivers didn't work for me. Just use the latest ASIO Behringer drivers. I can get 96khz sampling rates in REW and the Java drivers in REW will limit this to 48khz sampling rates.
Also, the unit can be a bit temperamental so I use a dedicated laptop and make sure I always plug the USB connector into the same USB port - hard to believe but swapping USB ports can screw things up!
As a note, the frequency response of the Behringer is 1-db at 5hz and 50,000hz (from memory). I did the feedback loop calibration and to be honest I don't even use it whilst testing as it is well beyond the limits of my speakers anyway. I guess if I was testing a subwoofer I would use it.
On another note I have noticed that this unit seems to suffer a lot from latency problems. Even at "safe" settings using ASIO drivers, whilst listening to music, there are small glitches in the audio stream about once every 10 seconds and there is some smearing of the sound. Luckily I can use another USB DAC for the purposes of listening to music but based on my experiences whilst I would recommend it for speaker testing, I would not recommend this unit for listening to music.
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What are you saying? that you want even get 48khz sampling rate due to Java limitation? If not, you can only measure up to 12 Khz with a 24Khz sampling rate.
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Niklas,
No, sorry that was a mistake. It should read 48khz sampling rates with Java drivers, not 24khz.
No, sorry that was a mistake. It should read 48khz sampling rates with Java drivers, not 24khz.
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