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SVS PB1000 and SB1000 Subwoofers​
By Jim Wilson (theJman)



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A little over a year ago I had contacted SVS and suggested they should add a subwoofer in the $500 range, something that had SVS quality but was a bit easier on the wallet than their current offerings were. The response was rather tepid, so I let it go. Apparently someone at SVS must have been thinking along the same lines because they ultimately released not one but two models priced under $500, the PB1000 and SB1000. After spending time with both I understand why; they're targeted at two different customers, and they fill those niches perfectly. The PB1000 will probably end up being the bigger seller, because it has the depth and output most home theater fans crave. Don't completely dismiss the SB1000 though, because it fills a need like few other subwoofers can. It's tiny, but that's not how it sounds or performs. The bottom line is that SVS has created a pair of entries in the budget subwoofer category that have their signature sound, but at an affordable price.

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Stellar review Jim - what a great experience to be able to do two at once!
I think it was the proofreading that made it stellar... :neener:

Reviewing two units simultaneously did turn out to be a bit of a challenge, but ultimately I concocted a system that worked for me. It was an enjoyable experience though, in spite of all the effort it took. They're both very nice subwoofers in their own right. I'm sending them off to Dale now so he can add them to the Sub Zone.
 

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I hope you ultimately posted your evaluation. I always encourage everyone to do a write up of some type, even if they don't think it's "great". The more people who add their impressions the better these forums become. That's my 02 anyway...
 

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Prior to my SB13-Ultra, I had a PB10-NSD which I was very, very impressed with. I thought SVS had discontinued a great little sub when they did. Too bad you didn't have a PB10-NSD to compare with the new PB-1000.
I would have loved to hear the PB10-NSD with my own ears. I don't recall ever seeing a bad thing said about it, which is rare indeed.

How do you like the SB13?
 

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Graphs, charts and numbers can only go so far when it comes to determining how something performs. There's no question they're very helpful, but your ears are the only way to determine what sounds "best" for you. The PB1000 may surprise you.
 

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I just pulled the trigger on a PB-1000 to replace my Cadence CSX-12 II. I researched SVS, Rythmik, Outlaw and Power Sound Audio and in the end, the PB-1000 hit all of the important check boxes in our criteria for a replacement sub. Jman's review was very helpful, as was S&V's test of both the PB-1000 and the PB12-NSD. I was surprised at just how close the PB-1000 tested compared to its bigger, and more expensive brother according to S&V. Here are the numbers from S&V along with my CSX-12 for comparison sake:
I actually reviewed the Cadence, so I'm familiar with that one as well. The PB12 I've never heard though, so I have no direct insight to offer there.

What you're likely to find now -- other than the obvious size difference between the CSX12 and PB1000 -- is the SVS will play deeper, while the Cadence has more output. The PB1000 wins when it comes to dynamics too. Initially you may feel the PB1000 seems "weak", but that's merely because it's not embellishing the mid-bass like the CSX12 does. That fades with time though, and you'll soon realize how good it really is.

After you've had the opportunity to get it tuned and fully broken in be sure to come back and post your thoughts. Others will benefit from your experience.
 

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Thanks again for all of your work, and answering my questions on all the different forums. :T
You're very welcome. I'm glad my reviews have proven beneficial for you.
 

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Is it $400 better?
That's next to impossible to quantify I'm afraid. It all depends upon your preferences, financial situation, goals, etc. If you have the money it's certainly worth considering. I've reviewed both of them, so I have first hand experience to draw from, and each is quite a bargain in their own right.
 

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watts is only part of the equation, all things being equal watts would be watts, but you have to consider the sensitivity of the driver for one and other things that go in to makings of a subwoofer, I have read on it but I am no expert, so I cant go into the particulars. there are really good subs with just 200 watts, you just cant look at one spec like watts and make an informed decision on that alone.
You are indeed correct; watts, taken in isolation, is almost irrelevant when attempting to determine the capability of a subwoofer. Even the class designation -- A/B, C, G, etc. -- is a significant when gauging the ability of an amp to provide the rated power. There are so many other factors that an explanation of them becomes an article unto itself.

Having personally heard both the PB1000 and SUB-1200 I can attest to the fact the former is a better subwoofer. However, the latter is no slouch, in spite of its perceived shortcomings (at least on paper). If you have a $500 budget, and you don't require the benefit that multiple subwoofers can provide, than the PB1000 should definitely be considered.
 

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I'll get off the rant now and I am not a SUB-1200 fan boy but it is not a BOOM BOOM BOOM sub. :nono:
I concur, and my review of the SUB-1200 corroborates that assessment.
 

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The SPL-1200 Ultra is not often thought of as an underachiever, so it's a bit surprising to hear you say that. Has it been tuned and optimized? Have you had an opportunity to try different locations? Bass can be a bit finicky so perhaps there's something you can do with the current unit to make it perform up to your satisfaction.
 

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I have a polk psw505 and was wondering if I should by the pb1000.
Only you can answer that question I'm afraid - the best any of us can do is give general advise and suggestions. We would need a lot more information before anyone can really assist though. Things like budget, usage (HT, music, gaming), listening habits (loud, quiet), room size (HxWxD), current speakers, physical size and/or WAF restrictions, etc.
 

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The PB-1000 would easily be able to handle a room that size, so from that standpoint you would be fine. It should be able to play deeper as well - in spite of the smaller driver - but the Polk might have more mid bass and so may appear to be more powerful when the two are compared. What about the Polk are you not happy with that makes you want to change?
 

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I am looking to upgrade from my current subwoofer which is a Polk DSW 550wi. It would pair up with a Yamaha YSP-5600 soundbar.
The room is 14x21 with 10ft ceilings. Usage is pretty much 70% movies and 30% music. We listen at medium to loud levels.

I have been looking at the SB-1000 because of size and WAF. My budget is around $700.00 but could go a bit higher is need be, so the SB-1000 is well within my budget. SVS told me the SB-1000 should be able to handle a room of this size with no problem but would just not play as loud through the frequency range.

Anyone have experience with the SB-1000 in a room of this size?

I have been looking at the SVS and Martin Logan Dynamo 700w and if I go with the SVS would be also purchasing their
wireless kit.
My review was done in a room about 1200 ft^3 smaller than yours, and the SB1000 was just enough for the amount of space I have. Frankly, I don't see the SB1000 being able to provide sufficient output and depth for movie watching in the 2940 ft^3 you have. For music perhaps, but not movies. If WAF prevents you from getting something more appropriate - like the PB2000 - you might want to consider the SB2000 instead. That would fare better in your room and fits within the budget.
 

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If your room is sealed, so 1100 ft^3 is the entire space, then the PB-1000 would have no problem with that. The room I used for my review is about 50% larger than yours, and it was just fine. If you really like to push things the PB-2000 might be more to your liking, but if your budget doesn't allow that I think you would be pleased with the PB-1000.
 

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I haven't had the opportunity to hear the PB-2000, but I imagine it's a very good subwoofer. The LV12R is not the Rythmik equivalent to that model though, it would be the LVX12 instead. The LV12R sits in between the PB-1000 and PB-2000. If you can afford the extra few bucks the LV12R is well worth it. If not, the PB-1000 is certainly no slouch.
 

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I'm able to see the pics, measurements too. Are you getting just blank spaces or those little icons for a broken picture link?
 

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I just tried again, using Chrome, and it works fine. Very strange.
 

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If you can PM me an email account I can send you an MS Word document of the review. That would have the pictures.
 
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