Hi GordogI listen to a lot of music and belong to an audiophile group. Virtually everyone from the group has remarked that they seriously have to look into the SB13-U to add to their systems, many of which have high-end audiophile full range speakers. Everyone agrees that the SB13 is probably the most musical true sub they've heard, very fast, tight and accurate. Extremely low extension, I get actual response down 12 Hz (at 10Hz, I see woofer movement, but no sound and the windows rattle 35 feet away - so I guess it does out-put at 10 Hz). In short, it's a wonderful sub for 2 channel and I've never missed the extra out-put that a ported box would bring for HT use either.
The 4311 has a separate digital bass management menu option for 2-channel listening. So you can select a different crossover when the AVR sees incoming 2-channel source material. It should also remember a different sub channel level setting (which is commonly lower for 2-channel vs. HT).Hi Gordog
how would I hook it up (Denon 4311Ci) for use with 2-Ch AND 9.1. If hooked up with LFE, will most AVR's still use the sub when in 2-ch mode?
thanks
mark
Great stuff. Will check it out. looking forwar the trying the Ultra 13 BTWThe 4311 has a separate digital bass management menu option for 2-channel listening. So you can select a different crossover when the AVR sees incoming 2-channel source material. It should also remember a different sub channel level setting (which is commonly lower for 2-channel vs. HT).
I'm certain you will be happy with it. :TGreat stuff. Will check it out. looking forwar the trying the Ultra 13 BTW
Would a pair of sb1000's (at front --no room behind listening seats and fireplace and stairs at left and right) be better than a single Ultra13. I know it would give more even coveragei think id like a pair of sb1000.they would be perfect for the size of room i have.my room is just under 1000 cuft.
i have a feeling a single sb13u would have more sheer grunt.Would a pair of sb1000's (at front --no room behind listening seats and fireplace and stairs at left and right) be better than a single Ultra13. I know it would give more even coverage
I actually reviewed the Cadence, so I'm familiar with that one as well. The PB12 I've never heard though, so I have no direct insight to offer there.I just pulled the trigger on a PB-1000 to replace my Cadence CSX-12 II. I researched SVS, Rythmik, Outlaw and Power Sound Audio and in the end, the PB-1000 hit all of the important check boxes in our criteria for a replacement sub. Jman's review was very helpful, as was S&V's test of both the PB-1000 and the PB12-NSD. I was surprised at just how close the PB-1000 tested compared to its bigger, and more expensive brother according to S&V. Here are the numbers from S&V along with my CSX-12 for comparison sake:
Thanks J! I bought the Cadence in part because of your review, as well as S&V's too. It was the first piece of my remolded living room based home theater and has done a great job, but after 2+ years it's time to move on. I just feel that in order to really "feel" the lower bass on the CSX-12, I need to turn the trim up past where Audyssey set it, and then the upper 60-90hz stuff is just overpowering and the whole system sounds out of balance. I feel even better now after what you said, and I know I'm going to be very happy.....Thanks again for all of your work, and answering my questions on all the different forums. :TI actually reviewed the Cadence, so I'm familiar with that one as well. The PB12 I've never heard though, so I have no direct insight to offer there.
What you're likely to find now -- other than the obvious size difference between the CSX12 and PB1000 -- is the SVS will play deeper, while the Cadence has more output. The PB1000 wins when it comes to dynamics too. Initially you may feel the PB1000 seems "weak", but that's merely because it's not embellishing the mid-bass like the CSX12 does. That fades with time though, and you'll soon realize how good it really is.
After you've had the opportunity to get it tuned and fully broken in be sure to come back and post your thoughts. Others will benefit from your experience.
You're very welcome. I'm glad my reviews have proven beneficial for you.Thanks again for all of your work, and answering my questions on all the different forums. :T
Just a quick preview to my upcoming review.........WOW
SVS PB-1000 hands down.How does the PB-1000 compare to the Dayton SUB-1200? Don't laugh! Is the SVS PB-1000 $400 better? Thanks.
Edit: Movies only.
Is it $400 better?SVS PB-1000 hands down.