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Is it $400 better?
That's next to impossible to quantify I'm afraid. It all depends upon your preferences, financial situation, goals, etc. If you have the money it's certainly worth considering. I've reviewed both of them, so I have first hand experience to draw from, and each is quite a bargain in their own right.
 

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Is it $400 better?
To me yes. To others, I guess that depends. If you want any bass you can feel (sub 25hz), then the PB-1000 is your only choice. If you are only after the 'boom', then I suppose the Dayton would work fine.
 

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To me yes. To others, I guess that depends. If you want any bass you can feel (sub 25hz), then the PB-1000 is your only choice. If you are only after the 'boom', then I suppose the Dayton would work fine.
I don't understand why some think the Dayton Sub-1200 just "booms", if you take the time to set it up and position and properly calibrate it (this goes for any sub) it is not a bad sub by any means. I've had more expensive highly regarded subs in the past so this is not a blind observation on my part.

There are a lot of more expensive subs that only go down to 25hz, yet many of them get glowing reviews. again I'm not saying the Sub-1200 is as good as them but to say that a sub that does not go below 25hz that it just booms is not a correct statement.

I'm not saying it is as good as the PB-1000 or goes as low but some of us are financially strapped and can not afford more than the Sub-1200. I highly commend Dayton Audio for offering a very good sub for a malt liquor budget.

What gets me is a lot of people will say the the Sub-1200 is garbage, but yet have not listened to it, this does nobody any good.

In my opinion as far as value goes I would say that the Rythmic LV12R is worth $100 more than the PB-1000.
 

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How does the PB-1000 compare to the Dayton SUB-1200? Don't laugh! Is the SVS PB-1000 $400 better? Thanks.

Edit: Movies only.
Here's what I see ya get for the extra :spend::spend::spend:

SUB-1200 12" 120 Watt Powered Subwoofer
Specifications: • Power output: 120 watts RMS • Frequency response: 25-140 Hz
PB-1000 300 Watt DSP Controlled, 10" Ported Subwoofer.[/QUOTE]
Specs: • Power output: 300 watts RMS continuous power (720 watts peak dynamic power). • Frequency response: 19-270 Hz +/- 3 dB
+180 watts RMS / +6 dB lower extension with a 130 dB higher crossover setting which makes it easier to match up to more speaker systems with higher crossover requirements. That's just on paper, mind ya :eek:lddude:


Look at this beautiful driver SVS has put in there, :clap: SB1000


For me going from a Bic F12 to a SVS sub was Hugh with biggest improvements in the forum of clarity of sound output, driver response and almost a +20 dB lower cutoff :yikes:(I said it was Hugh right).

I think you just need to ask yourself one question, How Low do U wanna GO :huh:
 

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watts is only part of the equation, all things being equal watts would be watts, but you have to consider the sensitivity of the driver for one and other things that go in to makings of a subwoofer, I have read on it but I am no expert, so I cant go into the particulars. there are really good subs with just 200 watts, you just cant look at one spec like watts and make an informed decision on that alone.

Of course the PB-1000 is a better sub, I'm not debating that.
 

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watts is only part of the equation, all things being equal watts would be watts, but you have to consider the sensitivity of the driver for one and other things that go in to makings of a subwoofer, I have read on it but I am no expert, so I cant go into the particulars. there are really good subs with just 200 watts, you just cant look at one spec like watts and make an informed decision on that alone.
You are indeed correct; watts, taken in isolation, is almost irrelevant when attempting to determine the capability of a subwoofer. Even the class designation -- A/B, C, G, etc. -- is a significant when gauging the ability of an amp to provide the rated power. There are so many other factors that an explanation of them becomes an article unto itself.

Having personally heard both the PB1000 and SUB-1200 I can attest to the fact the former is a better subwoofer. However, the latter is no slouch, in spite of its perceived shortcomings (at least on paper). If you have a $500 budget, and you don't require the benefit that multiple subwoofers can provide, than the PB1000 should definitely be considered.
 

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I have no doubt the PB1000 is a hek of a sub, what I take offense to (and not necessarily here) is people giving bad advice as to the sub-1200 or any other gear on biased ignorance. I've heard those one-note wonders and the SUB-1200 is not one of them

I got the SUB-1200 not expecting much and I was quite surprised so I bought another.

I would hope one day I could buy a Rythmic LV12R, but after losing my $60,000 a year job I had for 24 years and now it seems I am almost not desirable in the job market, for age or whatever reason, my prospects of having highend gear again is not looking so good. So the SUB-1200 fits what I can afford and I'm pretty happy with them.

I'll get off the rant now and I am not a SUB-1200 fan boy but it is not a BOOM BOOM BOOM sub. :nono:
 

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I purchased a PB-1000 in November of last year. It has been the biggest upgrade I've done to my home theater! it was a hard pick between this and the LV12r but I live in Canada and got a special discount on the SVS.
 

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(Bose Cinemate 120) Vs (SVS PB1000 + Pioneer SP-PK52FS Andrew Jones 5.0)

Hi Everyone,

This is my first post so pardon me if I sound like a noob.
I have the bose cinemate 120. I liked them in the beginning but now I want more surround sound plus the subwoofer is not a true subwoofer as I can hear dialogues through it many times.
I am thinking of selling it and buying (SVS PB1000 + Pioneer SP-PK52FS Andrew Jones 5.0) and Sony (STRDH550 5.2 Channel 4K AV Receiver).

1)Has anyone compared these two setups personally?
2)Will I get better sound while watching movies?
3)Is this receiever good enough for these speakers and subwoofer?

Thank you in advance.
 

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That would be a HUGE upgrade from the Bose system in every way. I would suggest looking at Accessories4less.com for a receiver in your price range rather than the Sony as they are not known for stellar performance.
 

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Your not going to believe it. How big is your space? You might want to hold out for a pb2000. Anyway you do it will be moving up. Congrats.
 

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Your not going to believe it. How big is your space? You might want to hold out for a pb2000. Anyway you do it will be moving up. Congrats.
My room is quite small and that is the reason I bought Bose Cinemate 120 at the first place.
Any suggestion for small room as these 5.0 speakers are too big. At the same time I don't want to compromise sound at all...
 

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There is not much in your price range for decent speakers. those Pioneers are about as good as it gets.
If your budget allows these Chane speakers would be very nice as well and a step up from the Pioneers.
 

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Hi Guys,

I have found this great review of the SB1000 in my search for a new HT sub.

Currently I have a Velodyne Optimum 12 inch (SPL-1200 Ultra) wich gives me enough output, put the bass seems too be boomy and sloppy for my taste. So I have thought about getting dual SB1000 for better coverage of the room and a tighter/faster bass.

I know I might loose the "chest pounding feeling" when watching movies, but I find myself listening to music more often than ealier and the Optimum simply is'nt tight/fast enough for music.

My HT setup is:
Marantz SR7008
MK Sound LCR 950
Velodyne Optimum 12"

Would you say that dual SB1000 would deliver tighter/faster bass than my Velodyne?

Thanks in advance :T:T

Regards
Martin
 

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The SPL-1200 Ultra is not often thought of as an underachiever, so it's a bit surprising to hear you say that. Has it been tuned and optimized? Have you had an opportunity to try different locations? Bass can be a bit finicky so perhaps there's something you can do with the current unit to make it perform up to your satisfaction.
 

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I have a polk psw505 and was wondering if I should by the pb1000.
Only you can answer that question I'm afraid - the best any of us can do is give general advise and suggestions. We would need a lot more information before anyone can really assist though. Things like budget, usage (HT, music, gaming), listening habits (loud, quiet), room size (HxWxD), current speakers, physical size and/or WAF restrictions, etc.
 
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