EMP is having a sale right now, it just seems like you get much more speaker for the money. For $689, you can get towers x2, surrounds x2, 1 center and 1 sub. Compared to SVS is about $1200 for the 5.1 system and the pb12. It just seems hard to beat at that price, so I didn't know if SVS was that much better, then I would have to buy stands for the SVS bookshelves.:dontknow: