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Love the review Dale.. Im am looking to pick one or 2 of these up in the next few weeks at least one for now.
Do we have a max tested spl on this sub yet?
 

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Both of those Paradigms are 3-4x the power output.. and price?, how could they even be compared :dontknow:
But if your talking 2-3 stacked SB13U against the Sub25 for around the same price point.
Or 4 x SB13U against the Sub2 for around some price point <--- I would love to see this battle!
That sounds fair :gulp:
 

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Does anyone have an idea how the SB13 Ultra compares to the Paradigm Sub25 in deep bass response?
I appreciate your review Dale and it's one of the most useful out there (this is not directed at you). However, the general lack of comparisons either subjective or objective against other primary competition such as the JL audio F113 or Hsu ULS15 is really disappointing. Look around the web and you'll find little to no owner impressions of this sub after 2 months on the market. The SB13-ultra owners thread on this forum has 0 replies! I created an owners thread on Audioholics hoping to get some discussion from owners and while it's 4 pages long, there is very little in the way of actual impressions. In addition, out of the handful of reviews out there, none has done a full CEA2010 analysis to see maximum output, extension, and distortion. That is important in order to do a fair comparison to other subs using data from other sites. The lack of data and information on this sub is just...irritating.
 

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Hi Tistru, thanks for the feedback. The purpose of our tests are specifically to compare our results to the manufacturer specs. In the methodology I mentioned quite explicitly that 'This is not a ‘shootout’ or any other competition between subwoofer manufacturers.' Each subwoofer has its own strengths and weaknesses. Sub Zone Methodology

We are looking at adding the CEA 2010 testing in the future so stay tuned!

Thanks again!
 

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Thanks Dale. My previous post should have said "This is NOT directed at you" :) Sorry about that (I've edited it). No i understand the purpose of your review and my comments were meant to be general. You are entitled to review your products however you like and as I mentioned I found it very useful. I was just pointing out that the general lack of comparisons, shootouts, or just owner impressions out there in the wild was frustrating. That is not to say anything bad about your review or the data you provided :)
 

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I appreciate your review Dale and it's one of the most useful out there (this is not directed at you). However, the general lack of comparisons either subjective or objective against other primary competition such as the JL audio F113 or Hsu ULS15 is really disappointing. Look around the web and you'll find little to no owner impressions of this sub after 2 months on the market. The SB13-ultra owners thread on this forum has 0 replies! I created an owners thread on Audioholics hoping to get some discussion from owners and while it's 4 pages long, there is very little in the way of actual impressions. In addition, out of the handful of reviews out there, none has done a full CEA2010 analysis to see maximum output, extension, and distortion. That is important in order to do a fair comparison to other subs using data from other sites. The lack of data and information on this sub is just...irritating.
Tistru i agree with you %100
I also have been irritated for the last month and all i have to go by is Dales great review.
I ended up picking up the SB12-nsd a few weeks ago and the CEA2010 analysis on it showed me everything that i heard from it... And it wasn't near enough or clear enough under 25hz for me.
I will have to upgrade to the SB-ultra this weekend and hopefully a second one next year :)
 

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I was just pointing out that the general lack of comparisons, shootouts, or just owner impressions out there in the wild was frustrating.
You are correct, this frustration is hobby wide!

Dale is working toward fixing that for us. :T
 

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all the sub tests are outside.so wouldnt any of the subs tested here actually play louder?because i know of no one that has there theater gear outside.
 

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Santa came early this year..
It looks like I have a bit of testing and comparing to do with REW on Dual Ultras.
MAN!!!! I wish I had duals... (Lowers head, walks away sulking.)
 

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I got dual SB12-NSD's in league city, if you want to come and check out the difference.

I'm considering trading them in for a single SB13 ultra . . . not sure yet, but your results are definitely helping!

I need to figure out how to use REW with my current tools so I can do some A/B
 
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