[Andysu]

No it has nothing to do with “the incredible Hulk” thou I’m not far of from being red faced at all this green smearing effect.

I’ve noticed a lot of this yucky green getting in the way that smears the look of the film on DVD.

I’ve figured it out. It has to do with bluish background colours. I know this wouldn’t show up in the cinema it would be unheard of it since its pure light on film.

I can see they have made some improvements by reducing the green as one would think their TV is on the Fritz.

 

[Andysu]

Mastering DVDs can be very complex. There are often slight differences in color. I am not sure why you assume that this is not in the film, however. You may want to post the name of the movie that you are using as an example and explain what improvements that you think have been made.

Hello
I know for sure i used to be a projectionst and i never saw this horrable green smearing.
Its on many if not all DVD titles.

I’m using a diffrent pc at school at the moment. I can’t cheak my spelling on this Microsoft 2007 word version.

Anyway when i get home i’ll post a few more films that have this offending green smearing colour.
As for the examples from Close Encounters of the Third Kind you see the diffrence. I was rather surpised to less green in the orignal 1977 relesae on the new verson that is the same as the blu-ray.
If anyone can show me screen capture from the blu-ray same sequnce i’d be surpised to see even less green smearing.

Ofter green smearing offenders are

The Abyss
Cape Fear
Terminator 2

I can’t recall the rest as i’m not home at present time.

 

[Andysu]

I was never aware of a "green smearing" problem with DVD as opposed to film. I have no idea what might be going on that you are experiencing.

If I can see you and everyone else can see it. Now then!

The screen capture proves it.

I’ll fish up a few more thou no A & B comparison as I don’t have well I do on laserdisc hmm. I know I’ll do a video transfer with this little (black box) that I brought the other day no its not a (flight recorder) its one of those devices that patches to the computer via USB for video and RCA for audio.

I’ll do a DVD short clip and laserdisc short clip the video won’t be 100 perfect in sharpness but sure will show the green smearing!

I’ll post as soon as the videos are uploaded will take a few hours.

 

[Andysu]

Okay three samples from Terminator 2 Judgement Day. Two are NTSC laserdisc editions and one is DVD region 2

The sound isn’t in Dolby stereo because I can’t get this pc to receive stereo on the input on the substandard pc card or it just doesn’t support going though the webcam input. Who cares! If you want it in Dolby watch it at home. Now then!

 

[Andysu]

Well I was looking at Close Encounters of the Third Kind on Bluray priced at £15.00 pounds yesterday and couldn’t decided on what Bluray title to buy? Yes that’s right I brought a Bluray player yesterday.

I don’t know if the same issues exist on Bluray and it forced me to say (I’m not interested in buying another Close Encounters of the Third Kind) too this lady that I saw in the HMV Bournemouth store. (I have them on laserdisc and DVD).

Well I might change my mind soon, soon not next week or next month, well maybe in few months time, well that would be 2010 maybe.

I think some of the TV broadcasts looked better than this, I’m fairly sure. And that’s analogue TV broadcast.

 

[Andysu]

It is hard to comment on your posts. I can't realy follow your points. Your sentence construction is confusing, and the problems that you attribute to DVD are not familiar to me nor to others here.

TV broadcasts look better than what?

I’m not perfect at spelling lets leave it there and I’ll try too focus a bit more closer attention too my wording.

Haven’t watched the same film on TV and noticed it has different edge to the image clarity over say laserdisc or maybe even a VHS tape.

I noticed The Abyss and Glory seemed more richer in colour texture as well as details in the soft sand that is thrown into the air when the 54th regiment attacks Fort Wagner or the deep darkness of The Abyss just seemed so much better than VHS laserdisc of the 1990’s.

Too bad I didn’t recorded them off air many years ago, I don’t even watch TV broadcast no more not in the past 5 years, TV licence BBC extortion is the word if you lived in the UK, now then.

I do have few on VHS and I’m sure I have the same film on laserdisc DVD but the signal wasn’t good on the Ariel but I could still see it was better image no matter what.

 

[Andysu]

No this is not the Bluray screen captures this is from the region 2 DVD Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines and the same issues also appear on the Bluray so now that I know its plagued with the same issues that is the format because first impressions is what makes it count.

I could do A&B with the DVD/Bluray same scene and put it up on youtube later on in the day.

Still the high resolution is okay but I think its only three-thirds better it needs to go further to make it transparent with the film print nothing less and nothing more and yes we want film grain since that is what its sourced from in the first place.

The chapter mark on DVD is chapter 5.
The chapter mark on Bluray is chapter 3

The studios have really got to pull their socks if they are to produce film like Bluray versions in high definition otherwise its just joke.

 

[Andysu]

It will be interesting to see if STAR TREK that come out on DVD/Bluray this Monday 16th November if it has any green smearing issues in some of the white hot light scenes with some bluish colours in the background of the Bluray? Saw it twice at the Empire in Dolby cinema digital and don’t recall seeing horrible green smearing, so I'll have to wait and see?

 

[Andysu]

Green smearing is viewable on this Poltergeist DVD transfer and I’m sure it would show up on the Bluray I’m counting on it.:gah:

How can you not see this green smearing! I think the guys that did the transfers need to see specsavers because clearly they have eye issues.

Now I’ve seen Poltergeist projected once on 35mm and don’t recall ever seeing green smearing over the image other than hot white light.

 

[Andysu]

Its real shame the studios can’t stop messing around with the consumer the paying consumer that is!

I have to say the upscale of the DVD on the Bluray player looks a bit sharper, so that’s little plus.:T

No the dodgy real-estate guy doesn’t have green smearing but looks like he robbed a bank with paint bomb that exploded over him.

 

[Andysu]

Why do you assume this is a problem with your discs and not your display. I can't really tell much from screen shots anyway, as there are too many variables to know where anything you see originates.

I have not seen what you describe, though I am not in your region, but I have also not heard of it from others.

So how do you talk your way out of the NTSC versions of Terminator 2 WOW that’s your region and Japan! Now then!:rofl:

Your not colour blind are you? Because maybe that’s why you can’t see the it in the screen captures?

No not my discs! Their discs! Their, the ones who are producing them and don’t forget that.

You can see it, you just want expect the fact it has imperfections. Now then!

LOL my display LOL how much and I know you want you bet LOL that if I was to take the very same DVD to show room and test it out on the flat screen TV that the problem will still exist LOL.

You just want expect it will you. Go and view your DVD/bluray NOW! Or are you afraid that you’ll see the same issues.

I think what, we’re getting is the scarp trimmings off the best beef or lamb chop while they get the best of the best. Now then!

The day I see a perfect transparent copy that doesn’t contain artefacts with no colourization of the image that is none of this over the top green smearing popping up on the image every time there is bright hot ach light with some blue in the background because the issue lies with.

Blue
White hot lights
= Too Much Green!

And you want see this on film projected in the cinema!

 

[Andysu]

Well I’m all eyes if you have solution formula to fixing this, I’d like to know about it.:sn:

 

[Andysu]

Oh, you want the details.

Hmmm okay…

Source players are

Pioneer CLD-1750 laserdisc player mainly used for all Dolby 4.2.4 and dts six-track of feature film playback on CRT Panasonic and LCD video projector

Pioneer CLD-2950 laserdisc player inactive at present moment

Pioneer DV-525 DVD player mainly used for all Dolby feature film playback on CRT Panasonic and LCD video projector

SONY DVP-S360 DVD player used only in the bedroom for stereo playback only

Cello DR-810 DVD-RW and player used in the main room for laserdisc copying for personal home use only

Philips BDP3000 Bluray/DVD player mainly used for all Dolby dts feature film playback on CRT Panasonic and LCD video projector in RGB mode

PowerDVD player pc tower, that is mostly used for screen capturing and I’ve tinkled with the video settings and it’s just not doable because the source video transfer is the one at fault

Panasonic CRT widescreen 32” UK model I can’t be asked to pull it forwards to get the model number.

It’s basically got an S-video with RGB mode as well, has brightness contrast and colour level adjustment sharpness P-NR, AI

Hitachi multimedia LCD video projector CP-X430 that has been rigged up with composite video component video RGB and S-video

It has colour R and colour B mode adjustments brightness contrast a few picture enhancement modes that give dynamic warm cool or normal tonal colour.

I have also tinkered with the settings up and down and it’s the same ole issue.

I’ve also used THX optimum mode to set the whites for darks so that the THX logo is in shadow colour looks fine, that is no one looks like a red face lobster! Colour tone on skin is fairly natural looking for the type of LCD video projector.

Contrast isn’t set high it’s kept fairly low.

That’s basically it. I don’t want a high definition flat screen I’m happy with the CRT and if want to see film presented slightly better I’d use the LCD video projector or go to the Empire Leicester Square.

That is it, and I’m going to run a six-track Dolby Stereo True digital rehearsal now of Star Trek (2009), which I saw twice at Empire in Dolby digital cinema 56KW JBL THX.

I hope the image doesn’t have issues because it was 100% at the Empire


So you can research my video projector because I doubt there is much that can be done with since it has the most video adjustments over the Panasonic CRT.

Cheers

 

[Andysu]

Do all of the DVD sources demonstrate the problem on both displays?

Yes on all displays, the above screen capture shots show what ecah dodgy transfer is, except for (theatrical version of Close Encounters of the Third Kind) where it exhibits less of the green smearing due to the neat transfer.

I just viewed Star Trek Bluray B region and its spot on. No issues with its transfer it reflects what, I saw at the Empire all except the large screen and 56KW.

 

[Andysu]

Between these screen captures from the dvdbeaver site I’d say this on looks colour collect on the first edition DVD despite the low resolution.

I think it’s down to poor engineer that has impaired vision, and most likely colour-blind as well. Because basically we’re stuck with this lemon version of the film, that doesn’t look anything like the theatrical release

Spot on! First edition DVD

YUCK! second edtion DVD

YUCK! Bluray the so call perfect format!i think i'll pass this one on Bluray Warner can keep it!

I think the owner of dvdbeaver has purposely screen captured this angle, any further around as the camera moves into the (hot white light) the green smearing will be all over the image. Sigh. Well I’m sure glad I visited the site because now I know, to avoid Poltergeist on Bluray, until these idiots get the colour and image transparent with film 35 or 70 I don’t care which. Get it done RIGHT!

Why I should pay for this? It’s like having donkey, at film developing lab messing up your 35mm photos.