Thanks Robert. I look forward to see the participant list when it is finalized and announced.
Value Electronics' 9th annual Shootout event
Our 2013 Flat Panel HDTV Shootout evaluation event will be held in our new store at 35 Popham Rd, Scarsdale, NY as follows:
Day one, 6:00 PM EST, Friday, May 10th and Day two, 6:00 PM EST, Saturday, May 11th 2013.
We'll have up to 70 individuals attending and participating so if you are interested please send me an email with the subject "can I have a seat at VE's 2013 Shootout." The event will also be webcast live in HD and moderated by our staff. Select questions and comments will be passed to our panel of experts for reply.
Our Shootout has proven to be a ‘must attend’ event among true HD enthusiasts and industry leaders, and this year the Shootout has continued to gain in popularity so you can expect to see many of the top industry VIPs participating. With the great advancements of LED and PDP technologies, this will be a great year for flat panel displays.
Many big announcements and surprises are planned so if you are not attending in person be sure to mark your calendar so you can participate online with our HD webcast.
Enjoy!
-Robert
Day one, 6:00 PM EST, Friday, May 10th and Day two, 6:00 PM EST, Saturday, May 11th 2013.
We'll have up to 70 individuals attending and participating so if you are interested please send me an email with the subject "can I have a seat at VE's 2013 Shootout." The event will also be webcast live in HD and moderated by our staff. Select questions and comments will be passed to our panel of experts for reply.
Our Shootout has proven to be a ‘must attend’ event among true HD enthusiasts and industry leaders, and this year the Shootout has continued to gain in popularity so you can expect to see many of the top industry VIPs participating. With the great advancements of LED and PDP technologies, this will be a great year for flat panel displays.
Many big announcements and surprises are planned so if you are not attending in person be sure to mark your calendar so you can participate online with our HD webcast.
Enjoy!
-Robert
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I always look forward to these Shootouts and watching them on the web. I hope the Panasonic ST60 will be in the lineup because I am leaning towards this set as my next hdtv. I look forward to the other Panasonic plasmas you do end up having there.
Thank you Robert for having this annual event.
Thank you Robert for having this annual event.
Since I've had a lot of folks asking if the ZT60 will be included in our 2013 Flat Panel Shootout, I will confirm that it will be included.
I can't announce all of the models that will be in the Shootout, but the 65" ZT60 will be a contestant.
I'll also have the VT60 in the Shootout, and it will be butt up to the ZT60 and Samsung F8500.
Let the games begin....
-Robert
I can't announce all of the models that will be in the Shootout, but the 65" ZT60 will be a contestant.
I'll also have the VT60 in the Shootout, and it will be butt up to the ZT60 and Samsung F8500.
Let the games begin....
-Robert
That really is a heavyweight lineup of plasmas!
All three have gotten great word of mouth and write-ups since CES. Last year's Panny VT50 was such a spectacular TV that it is hard to image these being better but early returns say that is the case. Shaping up to be an outstanding and fascinating shootout!
All three have gotten great word of mouth and write-ups since CES. Last year's Panny VT50 was such a spectacular TV that it is hard to image these being better but early returns say that is the case. Shaping up to be an outstanding and fascinating shootout!
Robert,
That is wonderful news to read that the ZT60 will be among the participants. You are truly doing a fantastic service to all videophiles and HT enthusiasts with your Shootout.
All the best,
Jack
That is wonderful news to read that the ZT60 will be among the participants. You are truly doing a fantastic service to all videophiles and HT enthusiasts with your Shootout.
All the best,
Jack
Thanks Jack! I love doing the Shootout.
Here's a nice article that just came out in Residential Systems. Please share and like it.
-Robert
Here's a nice article that just came out in Residential Systems. Please share and like it.
-Robert
Okay HTS members I need your advice about an important decision pertaining to our Shootout evaluation event. Here's my dilemma...
I had planned on putting in Sony's HX950, but unfortunately Sony has discontinued that model. So our choices are the 4k UHD X900A or Sony's highest end 1080p full HD W802A.
The dilemma is that the Shootout has only flagship series, but if we put the X900A it will be the only 4k UHD panel in the event and that's kind of unfair to all of the other displays.
My tentative decision is to put the highest-end W802A 1080p on the Shootout wall to compete with all of the other 1080p displays, but to also have the 4k UHD X900A on an adjacent wall just to show it off and do a brief comparison with the same Shootout wall content, but not to include it in the Shootout evaluation.
I can't post on AVS Forum or HDJ, but I will post this on Blu-ray.com and HDF as I would love to have as many a/v enthusiasts' feedback as possible.
Thanks for your help.
-Robert
I had planned on putting in Sony's HX950, but unfortunately Sony has discontinued that model. So our choices are the 4k UHD X900A or Sony's highest end 1080p full HD W802A.
The dilemma is that the Shootout has only flagship series, but if we put the X900A it will be the only 4k UHD panel in the event and that's kind of unfair to all of the other displays.
My tentative decision is to put the highest-end W802A 1080p on the Shootout wall to compete with all of the other 1080p displays, but to also have the 4k UHD X900A on an adjacent wall just to show it off and do a brief comparison with the same Shootout wall content, but not to include it in the Shootout evaluation.
I can't post on AVS Forum or HDJ, but I will post this on Blu-ray.com and HDF as I would love to have as many a/v enthusiasts' feedback as possible.
Thanks for your help.
-Robert
I think your tentative decision is a good one Robert - just make sure that everyone knows up front why the 4k unit is there and you should be golden IMO.Okay HTS members I need your advice about an important decision pertaining to our Shootout evaluation event. Here's my dilemma...
I had planned on putting in Sony's HX950, but unfortunately Sony has discontinued that model. So our choices are the 4k UHD X900A or Sony's highest end 1080p full HD W802A.
The dilemma is that the Shootout has only flagship series, but if we put the X900A it will be the only 4k UHD panel in the event and that's kind of unfair to all of the other displays.
My tentative decision is to put the highest-end W802A 1080p on the Shootout wall to compete with all of the other 1080p displays, but to also have the 4k UHD X900A on an adjacent wall just to show it off and do a brief comparison with the same Shootout wall content, but not to include it in the Shootout evaluation.
I can't post on AVS Forum or HDJ, but I will post this on Blu-ray.com and HDF as I would love to have as many a/v enthusiasts' feedback as possible.
Thanks for your help.
-Robert
Hi Robert,Okay HTS members I need your advice about an important decision pertaining to our Shootout evaluation event. Here's my dilemma...
I had planned on putting in Sony's HX950, but unfortunately Sony has discontinued that model. So our choices are the 4k UHD X900A or Sony's highest end 1080p full HD W802A.
The dilemma is that the Shootout has only flagship series, but if we put the X900A it will be the only 4k UHD panel in the event and that's kind of unfair to all of the other displays.
My tentative decision is to put the highest-end W802A 1080p on the Shootout wall to compete with all of the other 1080p displays, but to also have the 4k UHD X900A on an adjacent wall just to show it off and do a brief comparison with the same Shootout wall content, but not to include it in the Shootout evaluation.
I can't post on AVS Forum or HDJ, but I will post this on Blu-ray.com and HDF as I would love to have as many a/v enthusiasts' feedback as possible.
Thanks for your help.
-Robert
Your tentative plan seems the most logical considering the circumstances. I do agree that putting one 4K panel in a comparison where all the others are 1080P makes things unfair to the extent of the (much) higher resolution of the X900A. While there are obviously many other factors in determining picture quality than just pixel count, it still wouldn't be fair I think. In essence, with the HX950 discontinued, doesn't the very next model down become Sony's flagship until they replace it? Just a thought. Really looking forward to seeing the comparison between the ZT60 and the Samsung F8500.
I think your proposed solution is a good one Robert. The day will come when the best 1080p TVs will have to face off against the best 4K UHDs to see which is superior, but I don't believe that day is here yet. I think for fairness in the shootout, it should be only 1080p TVs, but it is a nice preview of the future if the X900A is available on a side wall for a comparison, but not competition.Okay HTS members I need your advice about an important decision pertaining to our Shootout evaluation event. Here's my dilemma...
I had planned on putting in Sony's HX950, but unfortunately Sony has discontinued that model. So our choices are the 4k UHD X900A or Sony's highest end 1080p full HD W802A.
The dilemma is that the Shootout has only flagship series, but if we put the X900A it will be the only 4k UHD panel in the event and that's kind of unfair to all of the other displays.
My tentative decision is to put the highest-end W802A 1080p on the Shootout wall to compete with all of the other 1080p displays, but to also have the 4k UHD X900A on an adjacent wall just to show it off and do a brief comparison with the same Shootout wall content, but not to include it in the Shootout evaluation.
I can't post on AVS Forum or HDJ, but I will post this on Blu-ray.com and HDF as I would love to have as many a/v enthusiasts' feedback as possible.
Thanks for your help.
-Robert
Doesn't Sony have a W900A 1080p TV this year - is that not out yet? It is interesting that Sony is dropping full array backlit TVs from even their highest lines, and going edge-lit all the way. To my eyes, they seem to do edge-lit better than anyone else in recent years, so the W802A should be a real contender in the shootout, at least among the LCDs (yes, plasma bias there but not prejudice - based on the shootout results over the years).
Hello,Okay HTS members I need your advice about an important decision pertaining to our Shootout evaluation event. Here's my dilemma...
I had planned on putting in Sony's HX950, but unfortunately Sony has discontinued that model. So our choices are the 4k UHD X900A or Sony's highest end 1080p full HD W802A.
The dilemma is that the Shootout has only flagship series, but if we put the X900A it will be the only 4k UHD panel in the event and that's kind of unfair to all of the other displays.
My tentative decision is to put the highest-end W802A 1080p on the Shootout wall to compete with all of the other 1080p displays, but to also have the 4k UHD X900A on an adjacent wall just to show it off and do a brief comparison with the same Shootout wall content, but not to include it in the Shootout evaluation.
I can't post on AVS Forum or HDJ, but I will post this on Blu-ray.com and HDF as I would love to have as many a/v enthusiasts' feedback as possible.
Thanks for your help.
-Robert
If nothing else, it would be quite illustrative to find out how UHD's handle 1080p/24. While of course the Sony will upsample to its native resolution, it will still be 1080p/24 and with 4K source material not being widely available (an issue I do not see changing anytime soon) this makes the addition of a 4K HDTV that much more worthwhile in my estimation. While no doubt if fed a UHD source, the Sony will have a major advantage, but the state of 4K does not seem that much different to me than circa 1998 1080i.
Best,
Jack
I'll echo what others have said, your tentative plan is sound. Put the W802A in the shootout but have the 4K X900A there as well but not part of the shootout. It would be very interesting to see how the 4K model compares to the others. :T
Thank you all for the posts, PMs, and emails! All of which has been very helpful in making our decisions.
Hope to meet many of you at the Flat Panel Shootout evaluation event and to those who can not attend in person, please watch our live HD webcast.
-Robert
Hope to meet many of you at the Flat Panel Shootout evaluation event and to those who can not attend in person, please watch our live HD webcast.
-Robert
Re: Value Electronics 9th annual Shootout event
Hi Robert,
I would encourage you to please INCLUDE the Sony 4K in the shootout for the following reasons:
While everybody is correct that it is not fair to compare 4K content to 1080P and lower resolutions it is fare to test this set and its upscaling capabilities. The question myself and others is asking is the 720p, 1080i,1080p upscaling to 4K worthwhile in terms of picture quality. While we all know no more real detail is there can Sonys expertise in the 4K world payoff in this regard. Also is the Triluminos display really something to rave about. You and I have spoken recently (to refresh your memory Im down on Long Island) about the Sharp Elite and Samsung F8000s. While 7K is a lot of money for a TV there are many people who have spent that much on the 70 elite for its Full Local Array Dimming and others have spent similar money on the Samsung 75ES9000 and probably will for the 75F8000. Im waiting on you and the others on this forum to make me with my final decision and in that regard it is my own selfishness for this request but at the end of the day if a 4K TV that costs as much as some of the best 1080P TVs and can produce images using CURRENT CONTENT then this is something that should be considered by all IMHO.
Thanks again for all your help Robert,
Lloyd
Hi Robert,
I would encourage you to please INCLUDE the Sony 4K in the shootout for the following reasons:
While everybody is correct that it is not fair to compare 4K content to 1080P and lower resolutions it is fare to test this set and its upscaling capabilities. The question myself and others is asking is the 720p, 1080i,1080p upscaling to 4K worthwhile in terms of picture quality. While we all know no more real detail is there can Sonys expertise in the 4K world payoff in this regard. Also is the Triluminos display really something to rave about. You and I have spoken recently (to refresh your memory Im down on Long Island) about the Sharp Elite and Samsung F8000s. While 7K is a lot of money for a TV there are many people who have spent that much on the 70 elite for its Full Local Array Dimming and others have spent similar money on the Samsung 75ES9000 and probably will for the 75F8000. Im waiting on you and the others on this forum to make me with my final decision and in that regard it is my own selfishness for this request but at the end of the day if a 4K TV that costs as much as some of the best 1080P TVs and can produce images using CURRENT CONTENT then this is something that should be considered by all IMHO.
Thanks again for all your help Robert,
Lloyd
Re: Value Electronics 9th annual Shootout event
I meant to say can produce Phenomenal images using current content
I meant to say can produce Phenomenal images using current content
Re: Value Electronics 9th annual Shootout event
lgroveman, as of this moment Sonys 4k UHD XBR-65X900A will be included. We have not made a final decision if the participants will be permitted to vote on any of the UDH models, but they will be there for reference.
-Robert
lgroveman, as of this moment Sonys 4k UHD XBR-65X900A will be included. We have not made a final decision if the participants will be permitted to vote on any of the UDH models, but they will be there for reference.
-Robert
Re: Value Electronics 9th annual Shootout event
I just listed the displays that will be competing in our Flat Panel Shootout. Take a look.
-Robert
I just listed the displays that will be competing in our Flat Panel Shootout. Take a look.
-Robert
Re: Value Electronics 9th annual Shootout event
I made the same point a few posts back and agree with you.
Best,
J
Lloyd,Hi Robert,
I would encourage you to please INCLUDE the Sony 4K in the shootout for the following reasons:
While everybody is correct that it is not fair to compare 4K content to 1080P and lower resolutions it is fare to test this set and its upscaling capabilities. The question myself and others is asking is the 720p, 1080i,1080p upscaling to 4K worthwhile in terms of picture quality. While we all know no more real detail is there can Sonys expertise in the 4K world payoff in this regard. Also is the Triluminos display really something to rave about. You and I have spoken recently (to refresh your memory Im down on Long Island) about the Sharp Elite and Samsung F8000s. While 7K is a lot of money for a TV there are many people who have spent that much on the 70 elite for its Full Local Array Dimming and others have spent similar money on the Samsung 75ES9000 and probably will for the 75F8000. Im waiting on you and the others on this forum to make me with my final decision and in that regard it is my own selfishness for this request but at the end of the day if a 4K TV that costs as much as some of the best 1080P TVs and can produce images using CURRENT CONTENT then this is something that should be considered by all IMHO.
Thanks again for all your help Robert,
Lloyd
I made the same point a few posts back and agree with you.
Best,
J
Re: Value Electronics 9th annual Shootout event
I am really having a problem deciding between the 75" F8000 or the Sony 65" 4K. Basically the same price so features are important.
If the upconvert on the Sony is great I would be willing to lose the extra 10". There will be 4K content in the next few years.
Your opinion is greatly Valued (pun intended). Will be very interested in the results.
+1Hi Robert,
I would encourage you to please INCLUDE the Sony 4K in the shootout for the following reasons:
While everybody is correct that it is not fair to compare 4K content to 1080P and lower resolutions it is fare to test this set and its upscaling capabilities. The question myself and others is asking is the 720p, 1080i,1080p upscaling to 4K worthwhile in terms of picture quality. While we all know no more real detail is there can Sonys expertise in the 4K world payoff in this regard. Also is the Triluminos display really something to rave about. You and I have spoken recently (to refresh your memory Im down on Long Island) about the Sharp Elite and Samsung F8000s. While 7K is a lot of money for a TV there are many people who have spent that much on the 70 elite for its Full Local Array Dimming and others have spent similar money on the Samsung 75ES9000 and probably will for the 75F8000. Im waiting on you and the others on this forum to make me with my final decision and in that regard it is my own selfishness for this request but at the end of the day if a 4K TV that costs as much as some of the best 1080P TVs and can produce images using CURRENT CONTENT then this is something that should be considered by all IMHO.
Thanks again for all your help Robert,
Lloyd
I am really having a problem deciding between the 75" F8000 or the Sony 65" 4K. Basically the same price so features are important.
If the upconvert on the Sony is great I would be willing to lose the extra 10". There will be 4K content in the next few years.
Your opinion is greatly Valued (pun intended). Will be very interested in the results.
We just launched our Youtube trailer for the upcoming Flat Panel Shootout.
Take a look. And if you like what you see sign up to attend and help us choose the 2013 "King of HDTV"
Enjoy!
-Robert
Take a look. And if you like what you see sign up to attend and help us choose the 2013 "King of HDTV"
Enjoy!
-Robert
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