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Not to mention Ralph had Steve via (or joe satriani,can't remember off hand) behind the wizards curtain! Lol
Interesting! Thanks for that! Sorry for abrupt answer from Bouncy-Bus!

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Well, it all started when a group of used car dealers in Texas wound up in the radio business because the radio group they loaned some cash to couldn't pay it back. Then they spent a year analyzing just how little music they could play and still retain listeners, since the ads made the money.

Fast forward to 1996 when President Clinton deregulated the industry and allowed a media group to own more than 40 stations. Clear Channel now owns over 1100 stations. Not to mention the venues, promotions and management companies, etc. that they own and operate. They can literally pull a kid out of a bathroom stall at a freeway rest stop and make him the next Blake Shelton if they want to.

Record labels now have fewer people to cater to. They can produce fewer records and get the same airplay. And they've since discovered that they can spend even LESS money producing FEWER artists if they develop "crossover artists" that Clear Channel will play on multiple formats - think Taylor Swift.

So not only do you now have fewer songs played on the radio, you have fewer artists recording those songs. For the major labels, anyway.

I'm by no means saying there's no good music out there. There's GREAT music out there. The fact that anyone can open up a laptop or iPad and record a song can be both good and bad. Think of all the kids out there that are musical prodigies living in some small town in the midwest that would've never stood a chance of being discovered. Now they can publish their own stuff. You just have to wade through the garbage to get to it. And believe me, there's a lot of garbage - thanks to American Idol putting the terrible singers on television alongside the handful that have a bit of talent.

My method of discovering good new music:
Pick one of your favorite artists. If they're playing smaller venues, skip the next step.
If they already play arenas and stadiums, start an iTunes Music or Pandora playlist. Listen to the other artists in that playlist.
Pull a few you've never heard of but like.
Pull up their tour schedule on Pollstar.com.
See what venue they're playing at in San Francisco.
Go sample every other band booked at that venue.
You'll find new music.
 

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Not going to say I liked it, It did tickle my interest a little.

What I did enjoy was seeing young musicians willing to experiment. In 10 years they may be rocking the world with fantastic music way beyond anything we can imagine. Or not.

There's a lot of what I like that could very well end up in snippets such as the one in the first post. Music is the most personal of the arts, as far as I can tell.

The right to poke fun goes hand in hand with the right to make a joyful or heartfelt vibration and call it music.

Of course we are just having fun here, not looking for a deep philosophical discussion. And I can laugh at some music like the next guy, but usually because it is so commercial, not for experimentation. I'm extremely liberal about what is good or bad about art. You haven't heard some of the stuff I've written. Probably never will.
 

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Good music is around just takes some looking into i.e.

Meadowlark - Postcards

CRNKN - The Grip (Feat. Sara Kendall)

Forest Swords - Panic

Emmit Fenn - 1995

Paradisia - Dancing In The Dark

Interstellar - Victor Ruiz
 

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YOUR record companies invested in private prisons in the 1990's. They use Hip Hop music to fill those prisons. Those prisons are required to have a 90% occupancy rate. If that rate is not met, YOUR tax $'s pays those record companies. If YOU have a vested interest in those $'s, then why would YOU bother wasting time and $ in other genres of music???
 

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CCA = As of 2017 CoreCivic's shares are mainly held by institutional holdings (The Vanguard Group, BlackRock, Fidelity Investments and others).

Lobbying efforts
CCA lobbyists have worked to shape and support private prison legislation in many localities, including Texas, New York, Illinois and Tennessee. Between 2002 and 2012, CCA spent $17.4 million lobbying the Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the Office of Management and Budget, the Bureau of Prisons, both houses of Congress, and others. This sum included $1.9 million in campaign contributions.
According to the Boston Phoenix, CCA spent more than $2.7 million from 2006 through September 2008 on lobbying for stricter criminal laws and mandatory sentencing terms, in order to generate prisoners. CCA responded that it does not lobby lawmakers to increase jail time or push for longer sentences under any circumstance, noting that it "educates officials on the benefits of public-private partnership but does not lobby on crime and sentencing policies.
 

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Ninety percent of what Americans read, watch and listen to is controlled by only six media companies. PBS’s Frontline has described the conglomerates that determine what information is disseminated to the public as a “web of business relationships that now defines America’s media and culture.” Business relationships. Last year a mere 232 media executives were responsible for the intake of 277 million Americans, controlling all the avenues necessary to manufacture any celebrity and incite any trend. Time Warner, as owner of Warner Bros Records (among many other record labels), can not only sign an artist to a recording contract but, as the owner of Entertainment Weekly, can see to it that they get next week’s cover. Also the owner of New Line Cinemas, HBO and TNT, they can have their artist cast in a leading role in a film that, when pulled from theaters, will be put into rotation first on premium, then on basic, cable. Without any consideration to the music whatsoever, the artist will already be a star, though such monopolies also extend into radio stations and networks that air music videos. For consumers, choice is often illusory. Both BET and MTV belong to Viacom. While Hot 97, NYC’s top hip hop station, is owned by Emmis Communications, online streaming is controlled by Clear Channel, who also owns rival station Power 105.
 

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Pete Rock: “Where i come from if your talent wasnt for real you had no chance. The music business is built for music people not just any artist, any DJ or any producer. God had to bless you with something real to share with the world in order to be seen or heard your true talent had to shine through.”
 
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