I don't know if you'll find this much use, but I tried exactly this here. It obviously doesn't have Ilkka's sophistication of measurementI don't know if this has been mentioned in previous posts or not, but I would like to see the actual db difference with running one sub (PB13/other) compared to running duals (2 x PB13/other). I've heard a lot of people mention that you'd only see roughly 6 db difference, but I'd like to see someone actually test this theory out. Or a link to the results if it's already been done.
Actually the 16-46PC+ was available in 230V back when SVS was directly selling subwoofers to us Europeans. And I know that there are at least three of those in here Finland.AFAIK, the 16-46 is not available in 220v which is why ilkka or avtalk hasn't been able to test them.
I don't know if SVS has finally been able to get a 220v 16-46 ready now with their new CE certification
The PB/PC13-Ultra without a doubt would be quite a lot stronger (also lower distortion) at every frequency. The new woofer is so much better and stronger than the Plus woofer that even the lesser port area wouldn't affect that much. Of course a native 15-16 Hz tuned Ultra would be even stronger down there but that would require even larger enclosure with those 3.5" ports.I own one and I'd like to see some tests to see how it stacks up to the new PC-13 and PB-13 in 15hz mode.
Which would be better....native 16-46+ with 3 ports firing or a PB or PC-13 with 2 ports firing in 15hzmode...
Wouldn't more port area play an important role?
Well this one is easy. A second identical co-located subwoofer will give you +6 dB, and not a single dB more. So if you are now getting 107-109 dB, with duals it would be 113-115 dB. If you want again 6 dB more, you need total of four subs.well here is where I am at with my subwoofer situation now.
Last Feb I got the 16-46+ with plans for a 2nd because I'm a bass head. The actually Specs and performance on the Ultra were unknown at that time even by the great guys at SVS...
I like the sub, but just wish I had more BASS in the 20-40hz region than I do. I knew when I bought it that I was going to be missing out on some bass, but I know a 2nd one would solve that headroom issue.
Then I think why spend 950 on a 2nd one when I could spend 1300 on the Ultra-PC and just tune it to 15hz. People have been raving about the 10 and 15hz modes of the Ultra and how great it sounds when tuned to these settings. I just cannot belive the number of amazed people...
So....In your opinion....Should I:
A. Buy a 2nd 16-46+ to pair with my current one and never look back. Would this give me 115-120db cleanly from 15hz to 80hz... (right now I'm pretty clean in that range averaging about 107-109db..)
I don't recommend this combination because you'd have to dial the 16-46PC+ lower because of its lower max SPL capability. Also they won't have identical frequency responses so you won't get a full +6dB at every frequency.B. Buy a PC-13 and pair it with my current sub and have the best of both worlds....I would have the 16-46+ which I could leave in native or tune it down to 12hz....which could be the sub I use to dig really deep, while the Ultra could be in 20 or 15hz mode and I could use it to really kill the rest of the freq range...maximizing its amazing freq and spl ability. I could colocate or use different placement and it wouldn't even look funny since they are both PCs and they are identical in height and width.
I have read your post and SPL threads on the "other forum" so I know you pretty well.Thanks ahead of time for your input....I know you don't know me that well, but I really value your input and have read a ton of your information here, on HTspot, and AVS...
oh the choices we have in this fun land of HT!!! :heehee:
duuuude i've totally been interested in these Emotiva subs as well. . .They sure do look sweet.I would love to see the Emotiva DRS-1 Dual 12" subs without outboard 600 Watt amplifier and included mic for Eq set up all for $1,000
my second would be the Outlaw dual setup LFM-1EX setup
THIS WOULD BE A GREAT SHOOT OUT!!
The Emotivas are new and due out January 2008