I've owned 8 or 9 Yamaha 2080, 2085s. They are my favorite ill-fated receivers. After 18 months, or 2 years, or 3 months, or 4 NEW OUT OF THE BOX UNITS have had NO SUBWOOFER SIGNAL OUT. Other than that, I love them. The remote is the BEST. The features are the BEST. I own 3 Yamaha smaller units without pre-amplifier outputs and each is waiting to go back for repair of the subwoofer output signal electronics.