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I am happy to see a thread on the Yamaha 1700 and 2700's. I have not had any luck with OSD. I called tech support to find out about such and was informed that if the signal was 480p or less, then the OSD would work. I tried and it did not. Overall, I am still happy with the unit and its perfomance but some of the best features are nearly unusable based on quirky design. I have HDMI in from Dish and from DVD player. On the DVD player, it would not talk well with the Yamaha. I ended up with a screen taller than it was wide. When the movie finally started, it ran for 30-60 sec. and then quickly cycled between green screen, blue screen, snowy, then black out. The pic would come back up but it cycled over and over with no resolve. This may be the DVD player anomoly but I thought it should be posted in case others run into the same thing. Initial set up is fairly intuitive but my skills need to be honed before tackling the user features.
 

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Hi Terry and welcome to the Shack!

OSD worked fine for me. I liked the sound a lot... just a few minor quirks that irritated me.
 
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Hi Terry and welcome to the Shack!

OSD worked fine for me. I liked the sound a lot... just a few minor quirks that irritated me.

The OSD works if I use component but not when using HDMI. Just to be clear let me add the OSD does not overlay the picture when using HDMI. I generally like the sound but am not happy with the lack of OSD overlay when using the HDMI that should be taken for granted. I spoke with tech rep and was told the in order to ad this feature, a $500 FEE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE ADDED WITH THE UNIT. That is hard to believe.
Thanks for the welcome and the help thus far.
 

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Yeah... that is correct. The overlay will not work with HDMI, which is a bummer. I might have actually kept my unit had this worked, because I would have been able to see the volume number then. I possibly could have lived with the other minor quirks.

I don't know of a unit that will overlay via HDMI though. I know my Denon does not overlay either.

I did get the OSD to work via HDMI, but it just wasn't overlay, it was full screen instead.

I think this is something we'll see in future units because I think it is sorely missed.
 

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OSD issues are nothing new. They'll almost always be a generation behind during these transitions. My RX-V800 does not do any video upconversion to S-vid or component vid, or pass the OSD through the component vid outputs. Then again, most other manufacturers (including Denon and Onkyo) had their receivers setup the same way at that time. In successive generations, Yamaha migrated the OSD to the component vid outputs, and then implemented video upconversion later on.

More recently, Yamaha's midlevel HDMI receivers only did upconversion for analog video at first, and did not include upconversion to HDMI until the 1600/2600 came out. OSD with HDMI is not a matter of if but when. In the meantime, it's a matter of assessing when the feature set hits the sweet spot such that what the receiver already has is enough to overcome any shortcomings. Because of how quickly the standards and available features evolve, it's inevitable that any receiver model out there will be behind the curve well before the next updated model arrives.
 

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Need some insight from those of you that own the RXV1700/2700.

I'm an old Yamaha fan and have bought a number of their AVRs over the years. My last one was the old DSP-A1 (Flagship at the time). It has, and is, serving me well.

I've recently moved to the HD scene and have updated my HT to accommodate this relative new aspect of AV. The last piece of gear under consideration for updating is my old A1. I'm itching to jump to the 2700 but I'm having difficulty evaluating my potential gain.

Currently I connect video directly to our SXRD via HDMI from several sources and utilize the TV for switching via a Logitech 880 programmable remote. I did connect a composite video feed from the A1 just to have access to it's OSD for the rare occasion when I need it. My SXRD provides all the up scaling and I've found this to be better than letting the S3 Tivo or Elite DVD do the deed. Our Oppo 980 is the only exception since it does a great job of that task on it's own. So, I can't see a benefit for moving to a receiver that has HDMI switching. If anything I'd lose the ability to tweak the various video inputs separately which, admittedly I could live without.

o Does HDMI receiver switching bring anything to the party I may be missing?

The A1 sound performance has always been exceptional and it does a decent job with DD5.1 and DTS but, not much more other than the original Prologic which I never use. It does provide 6.1 support of two front effects speakers which is coupled to a myriad of DSP functions which I never use and frankly have no interest in. I could benefit from SACD capability since the A1 will not handle the bandwidth without HDMI on board. I suppose the newer rear effects could bring something to the theater scene but don't know what exactly since none of the local dealers ever have these set up for demo.

o Does the 7.1 capability provide worthwhile improvement to video or music?

The LFE channel on the A1 leaves a great deal to be desired. It's only X-O is 200 hz which isn't useful with my Servo 15 but I handle that task with the X30 crossover supplied by Paradigm which works... sort of. I'm just starting to set up a BFD 1124P to assist in this department after some more room characterization and experience with REW.

o Do the improved LFE management features make life simpler in dialing in a sub?

So there you have it. My Delima. To sit or jump.

All insight greatly appreciated..... Thanks guys.
 
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No video problem

I picked up a new Zenith DVD player (712). If I use RCA's, S-video / digital audio or optical audio & S-video or any combo of these everything works fine. As soon as I try HDMI the picture and sound cut in & out - mostly out. I tried the HDMI with the others hooked up and by itself. I have Direct TV HDMI plugged into the top HDMI slot and I tried switchhing the two around with the same problem. I've tried 3 different HDMI cables that work with other equipment but no luck. Hooking the HDMI directly from DVD to TV works fine. I'm guessing it's just a brain - fart on my end but I can't figure it out. Otherwise I love the 1700!!:huh:
 

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I remember having some issues with HDMI, but I think it simply had to do with the settings, which I kept struggling to figure out. Your situation sounds like a bad connection or possibly a bad HDMI cable.

Btw... welcome to the Shack!
 
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I'm pretty sure it isn't a cable issue. I tried 2 others that work fine and went directly from the DVD to TV and everything is OK. I'm also guessing it is something in the settings but I haven't been able to work it out yet. I like the unit but the owner's manual isn't very user friendly. Hopefully someone will have a solution.:wits-end:
 

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I know I'm about 10 years late to the party, But does Anyone have a working remote for this unit they don't need? I just picked up a used 2700 and the remote that came with it doesn't have the NET button on it. So I can not navigate internet radio or files on my network. I would REALLY like to be able to do that. Thanks
 
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