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Samson S-Convert (alt. to ART Cleanbox)

21K views 17 replies 11 participants last post by  maxmercy  
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http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodID=1699

This can be easily found on the net and also in some retail stores (I bought it locally at Sam Ash). It is usually $49.99. I haven't opened it up yet, but if someone would like me to, I could. I decided to measure the low end FR of it though, to compare it to the more common ART Cleanbox. Judging the results, I think it is superior out of the box.

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I've indicated the -3dB point, which is 6.8Hz. The -2dB point is 9Hz and the -1dB point is 13.6Hz.

-1dB = 13.6Hz
-2dB = 9Hz
-3dB = 6.8Hz
-6dB = 3.7Hz
-9dB = 2.2Hz

I personally think that is just fine and a mod would be unnecessary. What do you guys think?
 
#7 ·
That is the reason I use the Samson with my EP-2500 and 2 subs. I heard a few months back that there was no mod necessary. Sorry I didn't mention it but I thought people here knew already.:doh: It works very well and I get full power out of the 2500. I am running 2 diy 12'' subs, one is a 1.0cf sealed box with the ED 13ov.2 and the other is a 4cf sealed box with the Shiva x. I run the Samson wide open, my recievers sub level at 0.0db and my 2500 at 1/4 gain and it is more than enough.
 
#14 ·

Using nothing at all, if possible. These things add noise to the system (at least if you’re using them for the main channels), and there’s a good chance you don’t even need it. I’d suggest reviewing Part 7 of my gain structure article (you can find the link in my signature). I’m sure you’re looking for an inexpensive solution, so if you really want/need one I suggest finding a used S-Convert. The only alternatives I’ve come across cost in the $200 range.

Regards,
Wayne
 
#16 ·

Is that the output voltage you actually measured, or what Pioneer specs? Often the manufacturer’s figures are grossly under-rated.

The ART suffers from a mild low freq roll-out , so it might not be what you want for a subwoofer. See here. I think somewhere on this Forum there’s a thread about modifying it, if you’re brave enough to tackle that.

That said, it’s down only 5 dB or so at 20 Hz. Unless your sub digs below 10 Hz, that could easily be fixed with an equalizer.

Regards,
Wayne