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Hello everyone,
this question is for Herb, or anyone really who knows the answer. I purchased a calibrated UMM6 from cross spectrum about 6 months ago or so and have been extremely pleased with the mic and service recieved from Herb/Cross Spectrum Labs. I use my UMM6 roughly 2-3 times a week at work (Custom car audio installation), and every now and then i bring it home with me on my days off to experiment with test and measurement, and to learn Smaart 7, (upgraded from 6, finally!!). Regarding transporting the mic, i often toss it in the side pouch of my laptop instead of keeping it in the case. How does the way we handle and transport the mic affect its accuracy and if it is damaged will it be grossly inaccurate or can it be thrown off by a tiny percent?
this question is for Herb, or anyone really who knows the answer. I purchased a calibrated UMM6 from cross spectrum about 6 months ago or so and have been extremely pleased with the mic and service recieved from Herb/Cross Spectrum Labs. I use my UMM6 roughly 2-3 times a week at work (Custom car audio installation), and every now and then i bring it home with me on my days off to experiment with test and measurement, and to learn Smaart 7, (upgraded from 6, finally!!). Regarding transporting the mic, i often toss it in the side pouch of my laptop instead of keeping it in the case. How does the way we handle and transport the mic affect its accuracy and if it is damaged will it be grossly inaccurate or can it be thrown off by a tiny percent?
Hey all,
It's been far too long since I've posted here, I can't believe how fast time flies.
First off, Happy New Year to all. Thanks for all of the support, and please keep those discount requests coming!
Second: I just wanted to let folks know that we're selling the MiniDSP 2x4 digital signal processor unit. And as with the other products we sell, you HTS folks can wet your beaks a little - leave your HTS username in the "Instructions to Merchant" field and we'll refund you $5.
We're starting slow right now just to make sure we can handle the support aspect of selling these so we'll likely run out of units quickly. Once we're comfortable, we'll start selling them in volumes.
Carry on!
It's been far too long since I've posted here, I can't believe how fast time flies.
First off, Happy New Year to all. Thanks for all of the support, and please keep those discount requests coming!
Second: I just wanted to let folks know that we're selling the MiniDSP 2x4 digital signal processor unit. And as with the other products we sell, you HTS folks can wet your beaks a little - leave your HTS username in the "Instructions to Merchant" field and we'll refund you $5.
We're starting slow right now just to make sure we can handle the support aspect of selling these so we'll likely run out of units quickly. Once we're comfortable, we'll start selling them in volumes.
Carry on!
Question about the sensitivity information being missing from the CSL umik 1 calibration file.
I have created a collated file that has both the miniDSP and CSL data
> the miniDSP has sensitivity information ( I really like not having to calibrate the SPL with my Galaxy 140 every time I plug in the mic)
> the CSL has better low/high frequency range and also is accurate for my specific mic
So the file i created has all data from both files interwoven within. Using this file REW does not require to calibrate every time I plug in the mic for accurate SPL readings.
Concerns:
There is no parsing errors from the new file when REW starts but I wonder if some lines are just being looked passed with "False-Negative" results
Questions:
A. What does the second column of data actually represent in both these calibration files? Because if it is sensitivity data then both files have this data and why then would the CSL cal. file not then allow REW to avoid this step thus requiring me to use my SPL meter.
B. What does the third column of data represent in the CSL calibration file? This column only has zero's and it is not present in the miniDSP file.
C. How does REW parse the data in this calibration file? Does it consider any "white-space" to be the same as "tab" and the same as "Line Return" as being next data to process?
Here attached is a sample of screenshots of the file I have created.
> The CSL file are the lines that have the third column of zeros
> The miniDSP file only has two columns of data
!.. [edit] ..! ... I obtained some answers :nerd:
I have created a collated file that has both the miniDSP and CSL data
> the miniDSP has sensitivity information ( I really like not having to calibrate the SPL with my Galaxy 140 every time I plug in the mic)
> the CSL has better low/high frequency range and also is accurate for my specific mic
So the file i created has all data from both files interwoven within. Using this file REW does not require to calibrate every time I plug in the mic for accurate SPL readings.
Concerns:
There is no parsing errors from the new file when REW starts but I wonder if some lines are just being looked passed with "False-Negative" results
Questions:
A. What does the second column of data actually represent in both these calibration files? Because if it is sensitivity data then both files have this data and why then would the CSL cal. file not then allow REW to avoid this step thus requiring me to use my SPL meter.
B. What does the third column of data represent in the CSL calibration file? This column only has zero's and it is not present in the miniDSP file.
C. How does REW parse the data in this calibration file? Does it consider any "white-space" to be the same as "tab" and the same as "Line Return" as being next data to process?
Here attached is a sample of screenshots of the file I have created.
> The CSL file are the lines that have the third column of zeros
> The miniDSP file only has two columns of data
!.. [edit] ..! ... I obtained some answers :nerd:
- The first line of the miniDSP calibration file is the actual sensitivity information.
- The second column in both CSL/miniDSP files is level difference in dB from the reference mic
- The third column in the CSL file is the phase used
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W3Rman:
A: the second column (of both mic files) is the relative response of microphone, in dB relative to 0 dB at 1,000 Hz. It is *not* the mic sensitivity. To obtain the sensitivity at each frequency, the relative response needs to be scaled by the sensitivity.
B: the third column is there because some programs expect to see a column for phase data and will report an error if provided with only two columns of data. Because we don't measure phase for the microphones, we just report "0" for the phase data.
C: I'll let John handle the specifics wrt to REW, but I think (again, confirm with John) that REW treats tabs and spaces as an identical delimiter and treats CR/LF (in various combos) as end-of-line.
Also (for those that may not be aware): CSL calibration files generated after January 2016 for UMIK-1 and UMM-6 mics include the *factory* sensitivity data in a separate set of calibration files in a "REW" directory on the USB stick. Again, these are the factory values, CSL does not vouch for these figures and does not support these values. They are there because a lot of people want it.
A: the second column (of both mic files) is the relative response of microphone, in dB relative to 0 dB at 1,000 Hz. It is *not* the mic sensitivity. To obtain the sensitivity at each frequency, the relative response needs to be scaled by the sensitivity.
B: the third column is there because some programs expect to see a column for phase data and will report an error if provided with only two columns of data. Because we don't measure phase for the microphones, we just report "0" for the phase data.
C: I'll let John handle the specifics wrt to REW, but I think (again, confirm with John) that REW treats tabs and spaces as an identical delimiter and treats CR/LF (in various combos) as end-of-line.
Also (for those that may not be aware): CSL calibration files generated after January 2016 for UMIK-1 and UMM-6 mics include the *factory* sensitivity data in a separate set of calibration files in a "REW" directory on the USB stick. Again, these are the factory values, CSL does not vouch for these figures and does not support these values. They are there because a lot of people want it.
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Sorry for the thread revive, but I'm curious if the calibration service is still available? I have a current UMIK-1 and would like to send it in for calibration. Am I still able to do so?
Hope this makes sense fingers crossed??? I would like to get my Umik-1 mic re calibrated. I sent Herb some messages he answered some but not all, for those that have one of his mics if you are using it along with REW will you get a sweep that goes below 10hz?? The mic I bought along w/ the bal. minidsp seems to hit a wall at 10hz.I would like to see if my subs will go lower.
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