The curved OLED Samsung model is very interesting to say the least. When they released this model in Korea it was selling for around $13K should be interesting to see what they price it in August.

Wonder if higher sized OLED versions will be available? Any beyond the 55 inch size?

 

Preliminary reports on the LG OLED on display in London,UK indicate it has visible screen burn-in from menus. Any idea if Samsung will be any better in this regard? Do any of the extended warranties offered by dealers cover burn-in? I think BB does on Plasma but not sure about OLED.

Pricing is obviously the most important questions. Any ballpark figure yet?

 

For me personally, I would wait for the second round once all the bugs are worked out. Burn In, high price, and any other technical issues (longevity) would have to be resolved first.. Plus, I would like a bigger screen.

Either way, it is good to see LG and Samsung make OLED tv's a reality.

 

What does, "See colors like never before," mean?

 

In regards to OLED, from what I have read, colors are more intense, not saturated - giving a more accurate representation of the colors being displayed. Also, when the picture moves, no shadow is seen.

 

Where did you read this? Can you provide a link to it? There have been various displays for years that can display colors accurately, according to video industry standards. Are you sure that is what Samsung meant? What do you mean by "shadow?"

 

See link here... I was talking in general about OLED displays in terms of the color statement.

Article is about the Samsung OLED ES9500

"The ES9500’s self-emitting sub-pixels can individually reproduce life-like colors, creating a more immersive experience that draws the viewer into the action on the screen. OLED technology is also able to differentiate between varying degrees of blacks, enabling its unlimited contrast ratio to deliver unparalleled detail in shadows, shapes and subtle colors even in the darkest of scenes.

With no need for a separate light source, the ES9500 offers a fast response time, eliminating motion blur. That incredible speed translates into action scenes and sports games that are amazingly life-like and 3D experiences with virtually no crosstalk. "

 

The "burn in" is troubling for me. I have a plasma and was hoping that burn in was going to be a thing of the past with OLED

 

I agree with you. "Burn In" is one thing that I can't stand. I had it on an old tv and every day, it pained me to see the station logo burned into the screen. I can't go back to that ever again!

I will wait this one out a bit.

 

I had a guest stay for a few days last month and they watched CNN for a few hrs and the dumb CNN logo was burnt in on my new Pasma, I was surprised how soon it happened fortunately it went away after a couple days of watching other things.
The Networks like CNN and TLC need to stop using such "Hot" logos

 

Proper panel aging helps prevent image retention and even burn in. Just to be clear image retention can be fixed, but burn-in is permanent and at best can be only partially fixed.

Some of the issue is the station logos that are too opaque, but a proper panel aging is always advisable.

-Robert

 

Robert,

Any updates? Did you receive it yet from Samsung? I guess it will take some time for a review since you need to perform the initial aging before proper calibration.

-Mark

 

Based on the latest update we're expecting our first allocation of Samsung OLED TVs this Friday.

-Robert

 

Robert you really need to share your thoughts on the OLED set's when they arrive, this is very exciting technology to be sure. :sn:

 

I don't think LG's and Samsung's USA launch of the slightly curved OLED screens is related to production efficiency. In the EU they launched flat OLED TVs so they can definitely build them either way.

I hope I don't stir up any big disputes, but I love the very gentile curve on these OLED screens. It would take much explaining to reduce my feelings on a post. But I explained much of the benefits in this pdf data sheet.

BTW, we are developing specialized OLED break-in slides and I'll be working with the OLED engineers and product managers to get the formula that best matches OLED aging requirements.

Enjoy!

-Robert

 

I definitely reserve my judgment until seeing on in person, however with that said wouldn't a curve screen make off axis viewing more difficult? One of the benefits of an OLED screen would be it's near perfect off-axis viewing similar to a Plasma in that regard. Even though most people would not watch a program of interest that way off-axis viewing is still a favored feature. lddude:

 

The curve is very very minimal and the benefit of sitting between 6' and 10' from the screen is exceptional with the gentile wrap around making the experience more Immersive.

This is a display that needs to be seen to fully appreciate how stunning and gorgeous the image can look with a pure un-crushed ultra-black level.

Seeing is believing.

-Robert

 

The Suspense is killing me. Did this unit arrive yet?

 

Robert,

Samsung just cut the price of this TV by 34% in Korea. Any idea if we'll see a similar drop over here?

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2013/08/133_140871.html

Are you still expecting to receive them this week?

 

Early afternoon tomorrow we'll know everything and then some....

Stay tuned right back here for my updates tomorrow. Membership has its privileges.

-Robert

 

Do you already have tv in your possession?

 

Im at Samsung's press event. Two quick items. First my two OLED TVs should arrive tomorrow. Second the new UPP is...... Just under $9k

More to come when I get home.

-Robert

 

Perhaps you could ask the Samsung engineers how they address the potential objections to the theoretical acoustic interference with a center channel speaker mounted near a hard, convex curved surface. Center channel speakers should be designed to offer a broad acoustical radiation pattern for a multi-seat audience. The center channel also should be mounted as close a possible to the screen so that dialog sounds like it comes from the faces on the screen. Wouldn't a somewhat parabolic reflective surface disturb proper performance of a center channel speaker? This feature on a TV appears to me to be a marketing gimmick without substantial benefit and potential for unintended consequences when used in a multi-seat system. It would be helpful to know if the makers of these curved TVs performed reliable acoustical analysis of this issue and have documentation available of their tests.

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
A Lion AV Consultants affiliate

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"

 

Hi Alan, Samsung's OLED TV has stereo audio, so no center channel is built-in.

-Robert

 

The majority of my large screen HDTV customers have surround systems with center channel speakers and seldom rely on the TV's speakers for home theater sound.

 

Thanks Alan, sorry I misunderstood your question. I don't see any issue with a center channel speaker being effected by the TV shape as the center speaker will likely be in line or ahead of the furthest point of the curved screen.

The curve is very slight.

-Robert

 

I share Alan's concern with even a slight curve in the screen. There will almost certainly be a differential effect on the center and side channel reflections from the screen. This is almost always a problem with curved screens in general ( I had quite a bit of experience with them in the early days of projection television when the first screens were all curved). That was when we only had stereo and a hint of surround sound.

 

I share Alan's concern with even a slight curve in the screen.

I know it will make it hard to wall mount. One would have to build a recessed cabinet to make it look good. "0" in the middle slowly widening to the ends, then covering the area between the wall and the thin screen. I think it would have been a much easier product to sell if it was flat, as they where at CES.

--LG released there OLED unit as well.

 

I don't think any speaker can possibly be forward of the furthest point of the curve. This panel's concave curve is less than 5 degrees. And considering just the width of any center channel speaker it would put the speaker near the edge of the circumference forcing it to protude even further from the outer edge.

In larger panels and particularly projection screens this is always an issue to avoid, but on a 55", non scope screen with the very minimal curve the center channel speaker edge will end up many inches beyond the outer-point of the curve.

I understand the potential for this audio anomaly and share your concern, and I will be testing several surround sound systems with this curved OLED display to see what works best. But I truly don't see this as an issue in this scenario.

-Robert

 

Samsung is smart in making the price cut on their OLED TV to help ensure more folks can purchase the units. The high price ($15k) most likely didn't get much traction so hopefully for those who are willing to pay, the lower price ($9K) would re-kindle interest so to speak.

Wonder what LG will do? Their units are now too high relatively speaking.

I am assuming LG will make cuts as well to be competitive.